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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Stein predictably the

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reaction to the appearance of Travis

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Walton on the para cast was extensive

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wide-ranging some people felt we didn't

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ask hard enough questions one of our

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listeners even suggested that maybe we

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colluded with Travis Walton to be nice

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to him and I don't know about you Chris

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but I saw the letters you sent me where

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you communicated with Travis it was all

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about do you want to come on the show no

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promises or representations were made no

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and I think one of the reasons that he

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agreed to do the show is because he's

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real excited about this new conference

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that he's he's putting together which

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he's hoping will be an annual event in

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Heber Arizona where he was allegedly -

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rediscovered after being dropped back by

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the craft that allegedly took him away

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for five days and I think it's gonna be

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a really good conference there's some

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very good speakers there and I think

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that that was enough to get him to come

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on the show with Travis does not do many

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radio shows and I'm sure he's tired of

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answering the same old questions and

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telling the same old story over and over

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again but to suggest that we struck some

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sort of softball deal I think is is

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rather disconcerting the pair cast is

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the pair cast we we don't coddle anybody

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we don't softball people like has been

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suggested I think all our guests are

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given enough leeway to state their

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opinions state their experiences and

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then we follow up with what we would

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like to thank our probing hard-hitting

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questions so that's how we do it around

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here Jean and that's not gonna change I

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think sometimes people just want to

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start discussions in forums so they will

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look for various reasons like for

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example I got an email from somebody you

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probably saw the copy where the person

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suggested that we

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deliberately would change the subject

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rather than let Travis Walton go into

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detail about something though understand

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there's a finite amount of time on a

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radio show to cover the issues and when

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you have a lot to talk about as you do

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with Travis Walton we're going to move

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from subject to subject I assume that

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since he seemed to enjoy the appearance

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on the show he'll come back again and

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whatever we didn't cover this time will

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cover the next time let's leave it at

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that the other thing of course is there

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are legitimate discussions in the areas

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where maybe he didn't answer the

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questions as thoroughly as we'd like so

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for example there's a TV show he went on

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back and what the 80s or 90s where they

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took a lie-detector test and they

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disclose the results on the TV it's like

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a quiz show yeah moment of truth well I

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would think that they'd look for any

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excuse not to give somebody a hundred

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thousand dollars the question was very

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specific and leading about whether you

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were abducted by aliens or something and

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supposedly he gave his answer being yes

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and they said no it's not true well

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maybe in his heart he felt that he

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wasn't sure what actually happened to

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him and who abducted him so therefore it

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would sound like a lie but normally a

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lie detector test you don't do that you

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don't ask a leading question like that

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you do a baseline to get a sense of what

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information and what his reactions are

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two answers are obviously true or false

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then you ask questions over and over

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again to elicit a cross-section of

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answers it's not quiz show and I'm an

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expert on lie detector tests I know it's

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not a hundred percent reliable I know

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that if somebody believes the lie

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they'll pass the test so what good is it

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yeah I lost a job because I failed a

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lie-detector test and I was telling the

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truth although the test results said I

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wasn't later they called me back and

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tried to reinstate me and by then I'd

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gotten another job but that just goes to

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show you these things are not infallible

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you know he's passed so many of them

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over the years that I think it's it's

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almost a moot point

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it really doesn't you know at this point

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in time I'm not really sure you know

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truthfulness when they've been saying

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the same thing for almost 40 years his

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the stories of the others have never

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wavered nobody has ever come forward

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with him information or any sort of

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insinuation that that they knew that it

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was a hoax because of X so you have to

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look at these things I think with

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circumspection and I really you know I

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feel that it does it does our guests a

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disservice if we go in and hammer on

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them and and dog them and really make

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them feel uncomfortable I think very few

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times do I have I seen that that's

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effective on the show we want Travis

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back as a guest I don't think we

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softball Dan we ask tough questions we

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ask questions that are them many of the

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questions that our listeners posted at

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that forum dr. Perik asked calm and

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short of that I mean I want to move on

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here we've got we've got some really

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good shows coming up here in the next

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few weeks we've really been on a roll

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and I just I'm really really happy to

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announce that the show is just taking

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off would leaps and bounds we're getting

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some very very good quality guests sir

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you want to give our listeners a hint a

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future guests other than the one that's

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going to be with us today well we have

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Chris our back who I've been trying to

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get for several years since the book

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that he co-wrote with Jacques fell a

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wonders in the sky came out about three

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or four years ago and Chris is an

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incredibly talented and gifted

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researcher he lives in Spain we're

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working out the final details of an

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appearance by him and there's others so

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I would like to get a little closer to

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nailing commitments down before I really

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talk about them but we're on a roll here

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we're getting some of the top guests in

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the field guests we don't normally do

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radio shows it's very very difficult to

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attract guests to a radio show or

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day and age and people say well the only

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guess you have other people try to sell

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something well that's generally the only

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time a lot of people are willing to go

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on a radio show is when they have a

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reason to do so so we're doing our best

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here to get the best quality guests that

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we possibly can and our reputation does

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precede us we do get guests that will do

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no other show but ours and and I'm very

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proud to say that the show is going

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through some some major changes right

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now well with with our providers and

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we'll have more information on all that

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as soon as you gene feels ready to to

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divulge some of the particulars well

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remember of course - we try to follow

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the Apple incorporated approach which is

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to not reveal what we're doing until the

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time is right but feel free to speculate

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I mean it didn't hurt Apple Apple has

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165 billion dollars in the bank and they

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tell you nothing

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except when it's time to stage the media

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event in the meantime everybody

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speculates so if you want to speculate

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and what the power cast is doing please

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go ahead I know they speculate on things

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about us that really shouldn't be

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discussed because they just don't make

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any sense

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but at least they're talking about us

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they're keeping their name we're keeping

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the name in public so spell our names

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right whatever you say about us we've

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got speaking of names a great guest

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today Chris tell us more well Mark

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Dantonio is the official I guess chief

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video and photograph analyst for MUFON

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and he also has his own special effects

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company and as a result of those two

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interests he's working now closely with

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special effects guru in Hollywood who

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did 2001 a Space Odyssey Close

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together quite a project called you

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photog and Mark is is pretty closely

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associated now with this project and

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we're gonna find out more about that but

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find out some of his methodology of how

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he goes about analyzing purported UFO

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footage and photographs and we're gonna

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talk about the difficulties now in this

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digital age of actually determining

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authenticity so I'm really looking

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forward to today's show I think it's

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gonna be very informational and we're

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gonna learn a lot we sure will Mark

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Dantonio coming this week in case you

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haven't heard we've got a free copy of

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Chris O'Brien's book secrets of the

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mysterious valley to giveaway all you do

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is go to the power cast com the power

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cast come and sign up for our weekly

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newsletter with gene and Chris you're in

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the para cast so here's what happened I

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was placing an order online the site

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went down it took hours before it

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returned but I'd already placed the

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order with another company if your site

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goes down you could lose business and if

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you have a business or personal site

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you'll want to know it's easy to run and

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it will stay online at iWeb your site is

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game attack of the rock codes and it was

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a critically acclaimed success and now

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there is the coming of the protectors a

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former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock odes and

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the coming of the protectors

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find out more at Rocko it's calm that's

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Rockets are Ock oids calm mics tenors

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and fremitus resources and no time in

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history have precious metals been more

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important certainly not in my 22 years

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in the industry the dollar has lost over

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90% of its value in the last 60 years

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no fiat currency has ever survived the

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government printing presses ours is not

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immune the time is now to be proactive

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1-866 to 237 extension one one six in

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think tied to the dollar is at risk CDs

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annuities 401ks IRAs stocks bonds you

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name it so decide do you want to leave a

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legacy of wealth or debt for your family

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the choice is yours call me at one eight

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hundred six eight six to 237 extension

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one one six that's one eight hundred six

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eight six two two three seven extension

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one one six be proactive not reactive

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call 1-866-376-8255 aridness

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self-reliance and food independence shop

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with a name you know and a name you can

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cast this week we're gonna get down and

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dirty into UFOs videos special effects

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we're going to have the chief MUFON

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photo analyst barked Antonio here and

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he's a person with a real commercial

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special effects background even before

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he gets involved in the UFO thing mark

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welcome to the power cast thank you so

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much for having me it's great to be here

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so those who might be looking for you at

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the International Movie Database or

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something tell us your background in

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special effects well you know I don't

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know that I've never paid attention to

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the IMDB and I don't know that I put

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anything up there but I've been doing a

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visual effects and my particular brand

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is called organic effects meaning not

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that I play with carbon-based things

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that I tell us the secret here maybe you

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do do is I like to make special effect

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work effects that you can actually do in

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the camera in-camera effects they're

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called organic effects practical effects

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now I also do CGI I've been doing CGI

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for 12 years it's

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used sparingly and it has its place it

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has very very good usage in certain

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areas of special effects but it's not

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what we depend on we don't depend on

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that we like to create them this is

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fruit instance the reason why the I work

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on the NASA's unexplained files programs

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in season one I created a whole bunch of

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visual effect demonstrations to

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illustrate science because my background

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is astronomy that's what I got my degree

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in so when the season one folks came to

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me and they said hey you know you know

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we hear you kind of have an interest in

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UFOs we see all over the place do you

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think you might be able to help us out

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on the show I said sure what do you me

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to do and you know we negotiated my

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involvement I got involved and next

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thing you know I'm doing you know these

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demos these they call them demos they're

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experiments and they're science

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demonstrations illustrating scientific

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principles by which we will find other

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life around other stars because in my

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science of astronomy exoplanets are my

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specialty that's what I've focused on

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yes planets around other stars the

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possibilities of life elsewhere etcetera

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so season 2 is filming here in a couple

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weeks and again it's a whole bunch of

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demonstrations to illustrate everything

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from the image and video and analysis

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role that I do to again speculating

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about the prospects of life here and

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could they be here I firmly believe that

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they good and then there's a scientific

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basis for that not a faith-based believe

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in that so my background comes from

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having built you know every model as a

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kid that they ever sold okay even some

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that I didn't even like but because it

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was something I could build I was

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enjoying it and I would actually never

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follow the instructions correctly I'm

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the guy that always had the glue on the

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windshield canopies of the aircraft

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because I never quite paid full

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attention to how to handle that stuff

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and then as I refine my techniques over

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the years I started to become more and

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more shall we say proficient at building

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models and so now I own a company that

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that creates models and we work quite a

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bit for the US Navy

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other Armed Services we do a lot of

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private work we do collect their work

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and we do movies and special effects and

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we the UFO thing came when I was 11

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years old that's how that started

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because I was always interested in UFOs

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and as I got older I had to have a major

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operation when I got out the hospital

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you know I was a kid who could no longer

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go out and play like the other kids for

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you know years I was recovering and

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during that time my parents decided to

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get me a subscription to something

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called the MUFON Journal which back then

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was basically ditto pages stapled

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together the wall T interest would send

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out that were just sort of rooted

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rudimentary copies of the UFO reports

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and this mutual UFO network thing really

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caught my attention and I've been in it

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on and off ever since 1971 and yet I

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just have never you know deviated I'm

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part of other UFO groups and you know

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you meet all types of people in the UFO

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rina there are people that believe

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simply because they don't think we could

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be alone and I totally buy that but

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there's also people like me who believe

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because science sort of impresses us

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with the notion that it would be

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arrogant not to based on factual data

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that's coming to light not sheer

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speculation sheer speculation is science

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fiction we love science fiction but

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almost everything we've thought about in

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science fiction has come true and I do

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believe that that will continue to be a

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trend that we show as human beings so

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this is me this is where I go chris has

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a few questions for you but why did I

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ask you just one thing here now I don't

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know about your parents but I know my

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parents would never have given me as a

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gift a subscription to a UFO magazine or

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to join a UFO Club they thought I was

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nuts I was always interested in

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astronomy I always looked up and I felt

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homesick

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it's just how I felt all the time it was

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a 24/7

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so I told this to my parents so one of

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the other gifts they got me was a

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telescope so see that was a more of a

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real gift right

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so the telescope helped me further my

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astronomy career which I of course as I

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said I went to school for finally in the

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end I always knew I was going to but I

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created a Space Station plan I wrote it

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on notebook paper and it was like six or

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seven pages long and I think I was 10

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years old when I did this I drew out

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pictures I talked about carbon dioxide

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reclamation even though you know I

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didn't really fully understand what co2

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scrubbing was and I talked about how you

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will go to the bathroom how you'll

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interact you know how to create

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artificial gravity and I built this

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little not model but I built a paper and

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a plan and I sent it to NASA with high

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hopes and you know a couple months

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passed and I heard nothing and I heard

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nothing every once in a while I would

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say to my mother

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whatever whatever happened in my space

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station plan and then she would always

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smile well you know they're busy wait a

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little longer

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well one day I come home from school my

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mother's got this incredulous look on

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their face she says you're not gonna

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believe what arrived for you today and I

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went in the living room this giant box

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it to a kid now it looked like to the

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size of a refrigerator box to me as a

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kid but in reality it was like a 18 inch

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by 20 by 3 foot long box it was long I

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opened it up and I just couldn't believe

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what I was looking at there were books

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they were brochures there were cloth

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mission patches from all the man's

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programs to that point there were all

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kinds of interesting things there were

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some models in there of spacecraft that

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I could build and I was like incredulous

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saying where this come from and I asked

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my parents did you buy this

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no it showed up and when I looked on the

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top there was my space station plan with

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a note from the scientist at NASA who

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reviewed it every single page had little

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check marks and kit words like hey good

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suggestion good idea you know blah blah

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blah at the end he wrote a little note

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and then included as a letter it was

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from a guy whose name was Bert Lee

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Gentry Lee who's currently the head of

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the robotics Space Directorate

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JPL that man is the reason I went fully

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invested into astronomy I talked to

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gentry sometime in a couple years ago

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and reminded him of the story and we

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vowed to keep in contact I think he

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would just be a he said he's a marvelous

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resource and a tremendous guy it'll be

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strange creatures from the darkest

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corners of the mind roam the earth is

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[Music]

607
00:27:18,869 --> 00:27:09,600
hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

608
00:27:24,489 --> 00:27:21,609
Mark Dantonio is our guest this week

609
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:24,499
he's the chief guy who does the photo

610
00:27:28,509 --> 00:27:27,080
analysis and everything over mufon of

611
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:28,519
course they don't use titles that

612
00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:30,950
elaborate they're more circumspect but

613
00:27:34,989 --> 00:27:33,350
I'm just having fun with it mark Chris

614
00:27:37,180 --> 00:27:34,999
has a couple of questions is to follow

615
00:27:40,210 --> 00:27:37,190
up to you go ahead for some of our

616
00:27:42,820 --> 00:27:40,220
listeners who aren't aware of the term

617
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:42,830
in-camera effects could you describe

618
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:45,230
what that is in correct me if I'm wrong

619
00:27:49,869 --> 00:27:46,850
but we're talking about filming

620
00:27:52,269 --> 00:27:49,879
miniatures creating the illusion of size

621
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:52,279
for instance with special effects you

622
00:27:55,749 --> 00:27:54,049
know Chris that's a very good point you

623
00:27:58,180 --> 00:27:55,759
know and I I do cool I do tend to gloss

624
00:27:59,950 --> 00:27:58,190
over it but part of the reason that

625
00:28:01,869 --> 00:27:59,960
we're in this business with you apology

626
00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:01,879
that we're in at all is because people

627
00:28:06,009 --> 00:28:04,070
sometimes don't have a full

628
00:28:08,619 --> 00:28:06,019
understanding of how cameras work and

629
00:28:11,139 --> 00:28:08,629
how you can use a camera I have a line

630
00:28:14,289 --> 00:28:11,149
that I say to people all the time that

631
00:28:16,349 --> 00:28:14,299
line is cameras can take pictures of

632
00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:16,359
ordinary objects and make them look

633
00:28:20,889 --> 00:28:19,100
extraordinary when you do that that

634
00:28:22,869 --> 00:28:20,899
applies to that insect that flew through

635
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:22,879
the frame that applies to the bird

636
00:28:27,009 --> 00:28:24,590
flying through the air that was mistaken

637
00:28:28,450 --> 00:28:27,019
for UFO not everything will be a mistake

638
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,460
but we want to weed those out but anyway

639
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,039
regarding special effects one of the

640
00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:33,200
problems you have if you look at all the

641
00:28:36,570 --> 00:28:34,940
old movies that have all these wonderful

642
00:28:40,419 --> 00:28:36,580
special effects and ships on the ocean

643
00:28:42,879 --> 00:28:40,429
you can see that their models and seeing

644
00:28:45,129 --> 00:28:42,889
that their models is is accomplished by

645
00:28:48,609 --> 00:28:45,139
your eye and your brain working together

646
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:48,619
to see that there's something not quite

647
00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:50,809
right with the way the water looks the

648
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:52,940
water doesn't have that that fine

649
00:28:57,879 --> 00:28:54,769
resolution of spray that you would

650
00:29:00,399 --> 00:28:57,889
expect for the lost ship going through

651
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:00,409
the ocean this is because of the scale

652
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:02,570
of the model the larger the model the

653
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:04,159
more realistic the water will look and

654
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:07,129
we have no control over water water will

655
00:29:11,289 --> 00:29:08,809
operate the way water operates you know

656
00:29:12,909 --> 00:29:11,299
it has small round undulating waves but

657
00:29:14,979 --> 00:29:12,919
in the ocean where there's big storm

658
00:29:17,229 --> 00:29:14,989
waves you see how they operate they're

659
00:29:18,999 --> 00:29:17,239
much slower they come to a peak they

660
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,009
have spray coming off the top and they

661
00:29:24,999 --> 00:29:21,200
have very fine ripples and lines in them

662
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:25,009
that you just can't force water to do

663
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:27,559
when you're using a smaller five or six

664
00:29:30,129 --> 00:29:28,399
foot long

665
00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:30,139
you know ship model and expect the same

666
00:29:32,919 --> 00:29:31,070
results

667
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:32,929
you know as a visual effects artist we

668
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:35,450
have to use other means to do things

669
00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:37,730
like that when we're using our cameras

670
00:29:41,019 --> 00:29:39,350
the first thing that's important most

671
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:41,029
importantly the camera is to make sure

672
00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:43,730
that the entire thing is in focus now

673
00:29:47,409 --> 00:29:45,950
you'll take a picture sometimes you'll

674
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,419
notice that you were trying to take a

675
00:29:50,379 --> 00:29:48,799
picture of the person in front of the

676
00:29:52,299 --> 00:29:50,389
camera but instead you focused on the

677
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,309
wall behind the person and the person's

678
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:54,320
a little out of focus but the wall is

679
00:29:57,580 --> 00:29:55,039
sharp

680
00:29:59,919 --> 00:29:57,590
well the wall wasn't your subject that's

681
00:30:01,509 --> 00:29:59,929
called depth of field error okay the

682
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:01,519
depth of the field in other words the

683
00:30:07,779 --> 00:30:05,330
distance from the lens to as far as you

684
00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:07,789
are interested in shooting has to be in

685
00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:09,590
focus that's called depth of field the

686
00:30:14,529 --> 00:30:12,230
depth of focus right from the camera on

687
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:14,539
out you can set the depth of field to be

688
00:30:19,869 --> 00:30:17,450
from 10 inches away from your camera all

689
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:19,879
the way to the farthest horizon or you

690
00:30:25,419 --> 00:30:23,120
can set it to be a point 5 foot 1 inches

691
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:25,429
from the camera to 5 foot 10 inches from

692
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:26,990
the camera you know they can make it a

693
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:28,970
very shallow depth of field a very

694
00:30:33,879 --> 00:30:31,370
shallow plane and thickness of the focal

695
00:30:37,149 --> 00:30:33,889
range and so we play with that all the

696
00:30:38,919 --> 00:30:37,159
time and one of the considerations that

697
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,929
you have to concern yourself with is

698
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:41,120
that to get more focus and sharp

699
00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:42,950
pictures and visual effects arena with a

700
00:30:48,249 --> 00:30:46,070
model you need to have the camera what's

701
00:30:50,110 --> 00:30:48,259
called stopped down you all hear you

702
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,120
know you know to some extent most people

703
00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:51,919
know about f-stop of a camera that's the

704
00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:53,990
size of the opening that's allowing the

705
00:30:58,659 --> 00:30:55,580
light in through the lens well that can

706
00:31:01,779 --> 00:30:58,669
vary you can have it at f/2 or you can

707
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:01,789
have it at f-22 now the difference is if

708
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:03,679
two is wide open and then everything

709
00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:05,809
graded but you know gradually in between

710
00:31:09,549 --> 00:31:07,009
goes to smaller and smaller and smaller

711
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:09,559
opening until it's the size of a pinhead

712
00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:13,039
at like f/32 or f-22 you know well that

713
00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:15,590
got too technical here mark because most

714
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,350
people who handle photography these days

715
00:31:22,629 --> 00:31:20,480
do it with their smartphones and I'm

716
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:22,639
going to ask you about that too which is

717
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:24,529
we've got all these smartphones with

718
00:31:29,230 --> 00:31:26,570
more and more sophisticated features so

719
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:29,240
just this past weekend Apple introduced

720
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,970
the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 plus the

721
00:31:36,369 --> 00:31:33,679
bigger one with a five and a half inch

722
00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:36,379
screen has such things as optical image

723
00:31:41,950 --> 00:31:39,350
stabilization it's just one focal length

724
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:41,960
you don't have you know multiple lenses

725
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:44,000
and stuff like that so is it possible

726
00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:44,610
that

727
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:47,580
create a credible special effect or fake

728
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:50,370
UFO picture with your iPhone or with

729
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:53,070
your samsung galaxy or with a GoPro

730
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,320
camera which has you know 170 degree

731
00:32:00,410 --> 00:31:57,120
field we just premiered a movie in

732
00:32:02,180 --> 00:32:00,420
Seattle Toronto and Amsterdam this past

733
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:02,190
few months in fact Amsterdam was just

734
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:04,850
this past week and it's called you

735
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:09,000
photographer tag UFO t og yeah and we'll

736
00:32:12,919 --> 00:32:11,340
explain that if you want but I don't

737
00:32:17,030 --> 00:32:12,929
think I have the stomach for it let's go

738
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:17,040
on you Fatah a pioneering effort in 3d

739
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:19,770
where we actually show the Dougs process

740
00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:22,410
of creating a very very high intensity

741
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:24,270
3d experience unlike anything ever seen

742
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:26,340
and it works it's it is that way in fact

743
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:28,110
you know we've had a lot of very

744
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:29,940
high-end people and Hollywood and so

745
00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:31,799
forth attend the premieres and they were

746
00:32:35,419 --> 00:32:33,990
blown away it's a coming technology

747
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:35,429
that's gonna be utilized in the movie

748
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:37,530
industry but that aside that's that's

749
00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:39,750
that's a separate thing altogether that

750
00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:41,640
the importance that I'm trying to get it

751
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:45,150
is when you when you look at UFO photos

752
00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:46,770
taking with an iPhone or what have you

753
00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:50,070
you have a chance depending on the tools

754
00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:52,380
you have at your disposal to pretty much

755
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,390
make that anything you want when we

756
00:32:59,270 --> 00:32:56,880
filmed our movie we used GoPro cameras

757
00:33:02,060 --> 00:32:59,280
for some of the scenes and the way we

758
00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:02,070
utilize the GoPro cameras later in the

759
00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:03,960
overall footage even though the GoPros

760
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:07,260
weren't 3d cameras okay we still managed

761
00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:10,530
to get very high quality cinema quality

762
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:14,520
delivery of that footage even though we

763
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:15,870
couldn't shoot it that way at the time

764
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,720
so there are ways to manipulate footage

765
00:33:21,890 --> 00:33:20,640
no matter what you take it with so let

766
00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:21,900
me just say that's that's the first

767
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:25,280
point the iPhone 6 with you know multi

768
00:33:31,030 --> 00:33:28,410
megapixel cameras are beautiful and I

769
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:31,040
think that could you create a credible

770
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:33,650
visual effect with a phone absolutely

771
00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:36,450
you know there are apps right now

772
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:40,470
you could insert a UFO into you know the

773
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:42,690
frame of a picture and then and make it

774
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:44,340
look semi real I get those all the time

775
00:33:50,539 --> 00:33:48,090
and you know because I've I myself have

776
00:33:53,510 --> 00:33:50,549
taken well over half a million photos of

777
00:33:55,010 --> 00:33:53,520
the night sky and I've taken every

778
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:55,020
single bad picture you can take so I

779
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:56,700
recognize a lot of the artifacts right

780
00:34:02,380 --> 00:33:58,730
off the bat so we can dismiss

781
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:02,390
a lot of those the UFO applications I

782
00:34:08,169 --> 00:34:05,600
studied all the various kinds of fake

783
00:34:10,270 --> 00:34:08,179
UFOs in these apps and now I can

784
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:10,280
recognize those because you can't change

785
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:12,409
them too much and so you can recognize

786
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:14,450
them easily so those we can dismiss

787
00:34:20,619 --> 00:34:17,330
pretty quickly but the phones themselves

788
00:34:22,450 --> 00:34:20,629
have the ability to allow you to do some

789
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:22,460
really interesting things there are

790
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:24,050
programs and apps you can download that

791
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:25,310
actually allow you to add special

792
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:28,609
effects to your footage or to your image

793
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:31,010
and to even edit them and this is

794
00:34:34,450 --> 00:34:32,570
something that you know we all have to

795
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:34,460
contend with as investigators in the UFO

796
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:36,530
arena there kind of leads us to a

797
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:39,290
question from one of our listeners who

798
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:41,570
who posted at forum dr. Peric ascom

799
00:34:46,570 --> 00:34:44,510
where our listeners can ask questions of

800
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:46,580
our guests and teams sheepsquatch as he

801
00:34:51,490 --> 00:34:49,609
calls himself I can't get over that name

802
00:34:58,090 --> 00:34:51,500
Chris right that is got to be the best

803
00:35:00,570 --> 00:34:58,100
name of anybody in the forum oh you

804
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:00,580
should see some of the names of our

805
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:04,160
listeners on online here but he's asking

806
00:35:09,310 --> 00:35:06,740
that a very similar question to to what

807
00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:09,320
gene pose but he wants to know what kind

808
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:13,180
of advice you could give folks that have

809
00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:17,330
sophisticated camera phones he has an

810
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:20,150
iPhone 5s for instance any he says can

811
00:35:23,859 --> 00:35:21,650
you give us some advice on how to take

812
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:23,869
better pictures and videos of real

813
00:35:28,330 --> 00:35:26,450
aerial phenomena with a cell phone he

814
00:35:30,010 --> 00:35:28,340
says he's tried to photograph several

815
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unusual objects in the last few months

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00:35:35,859 --> 00:35:31,970
and he he never seems to be able to get

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a good good shot and like I said he does

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have an iPhone 5 at it yeah you know

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when you look at the size of the lens

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system on there and the size of the

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sensor on the phone you get what you get

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you know there's no telephoto lens that

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you can stick on there as you've pointed

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out there is no larger picture size

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other than the native raw size that you

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get with the iPhone which actually isn't

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that bad when you look at the phones in

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the way they lens systems work it's it's

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gonna be a little bit difficult to try

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and expect a very small lens system to

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lens system has with server

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area the lens that can take in light

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rays and focus them you know to a sensor

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properly then the size of the sensor in

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phones is much smaller than the size and

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say commercial Nikon camera let's

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discuss the limitations were in our next

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segment Mark Dantonio is with us stop

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the presses we've just learned that

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podcast

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[Music]

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00:41:22,299 --> 00:41:19,559
Mark Dantonio who does photo analysis

945
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:22,309
for MUFON lots of commercial

946
00:41:26,509 --> 00:41:24,329
special-effects experience we're talking

947
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:26,519
about the limitations of your iPhone

948
00:41:31,099 --> 00:41:29,430
your Android your Nokia Lumia and I

949
00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:31,109
think they're taking away Nokia cell

950
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:33,480
just balunia don't ask me to explain all

951
00:41:37,819 --> 00:41:35,849
this but the point being here the

952
00:41:40,339 --> 00:41:37,829
limitations of these little tiny cameras

953
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:40,349
but I think one of the arguments people

954
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,950
make Mark Dantonio is that if so many

955
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:45,839
people have these smart phones we're

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talking about hundreds of millions of

957
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:49,170
people out there all around the world

958
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,170
have these gadgets the cameras are

959
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:54,240
getting better and better especially on

960
00:42:00,349 --> 00:41:56,730
the high end products so why aren't

961
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,359
people getting more pictures of UFOs my

962
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:02,160
feeling is that the big reason is that

963
00:42:07,549 --> 00:42:04,230
when they have these devices they're

964
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:07,559
looking down and texting or something

965
00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:08,970
and they're not looking up to see

966
00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:14,369
anything I was gonna go with the answer

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is that when you talk to someone and you

968
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say what a beautiful starry night it is

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then they look up and go wow that gives

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00:42:25,730 --> 00:42:24,150
you the answer right there people are

971
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:25,740
earthbound they look down they look

972
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:28,049
horizontally they very rarely look up

973
00:42:31,759 --> 00:42:29,250
unless something draws their attention

974
00:42:35,859 --> 00:42:31,769
like a sound crash an airplane or

975
00:42:40,009 --> 00:42:35,869
whatever if you live in Manhattan right

976
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:40,019
but the truth is that most people don't

977
00:42:44,269 --> 00:42:42,690
look up it's like people who say I don't

978
00:42:46,339 --> 00:42:44,279
believe those airline pilots who say

979
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,349
they see UFOs how come the passengers

980
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:48,720
didn't see any have you ever as I have

981
00:42:53,509 --> 00:42:51,089
observed the passengers on an airliner

982
00:42:55,549 --> 00:42:53,519
with the express purpose of documenting

983
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:55,559
the statistical amount of time the

984
00:43:00,499 --> 00:42:57,210
passengers are actually looking out the

985
00:43:03,529 --> 00:43:00,509
window first of all for the windows that

986
00:43:04,730 --> 00:43:03,539
are open believe it or not a full twenty

987
00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:04,740
percent of those windows are closed

988
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:06,420
because people aren't looking out the

989
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:07,529
windows they're shutting them to take a

990
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:10,650
nap or to sleep but the majority of the

991
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:13,470
people are looking at publications or

992
00:43:18,799 --> 00:43:15,450
their you know their phones and airplane

993
00:43:21,319 --> 00:43:18,809
mode or working on a laptop the window

994
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:21,329
is now a secondary item it used to be

995
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,490
the primary viewing port to the world

996
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:25,680
and a plane and it was spectacular but

997
00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:26,609
it's old new

998
00:43:31,999 --> 00:43:28,980
now I'm the only one staring out the

999
00:43:33,890 --> 00:43:32,009
window all the time and your angle of

1000
00:43:36,289 --> 00:43:33,900
view is really tiny so you don't even

1001
00:43:37,819 --> 00:43:36,299
see you can't see up over the plane you

1002
00:43:39,739 --> 00:43:37,829
can't see down below the plane you know

1003
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:39,749
you only have a very very narrow cone

1004
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,049
out of each window so I don't have any

1005
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issue with people saying that you know

1006
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:47,549
there was a pilot saying that they've

1007
00:43:50,299 --> 00:43:49,049
seen things because I'm sure they put

1008
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:50,309
see things that will never see other

1009
00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:52,470
windows I just think when you say that

1010
00:43:56,210 --> 00:43:53,940
you're seeing things out the windows I

1011
00:43:58,819 --> 00:43:56,220
think of that Twilight Zone episode with

1012
00:44:01,160 --> 00:43:58,829
William Shatner yes where he sees this

1013
00:44:03,019 --> 00:44:01,170
creature out there and he's freaking me

1014
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:03,029
out and nobody else sees the creature

1015
00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:10,079
hanging out on the wing wasn't that

1016
00:44:13,309 --> 00:44:12,150
though was it devil on the wing or

1017
00:44:15,009 --> 00:44:13,319
something like that I can remember the

1018
00:44:17,779 --> 00:44:15,019
name of the episode this is before

1019
00:44:21,319 --> 00:44:17,789
Shatner overacted on Star Trek he was

1020
00:44:24,229 --> 00:44:21,329
overacting by light so it was and I'll

1021
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:24,239
tell you why because he can before

1022
00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:25,680
Chris's question the rumor of the day

1023
00:44:31,279 --> 00:44:28,470
before Chris asks a question they will

1024
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:31,289
reunite William Shatner and Leonard

1025
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:34,529
Nimoy and a cameo in Star Trek three

1026
00:44:40,089 --> 00:44:38,160
Chris I must interject here mark that

1027
00:44:42,109 --> 00:44:40,099
some of the probably some of the most

1028
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:42,119
amazing incredible footage I've ever

1029
00:44:48,229 --> 00:44:45,180
seen has been shot out airline two

1030
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:48,239
windows with a film camera not not a

1031
00:44:56,479 --> 00:44:51,930
video camera including one sequence that

1032
00:44:59,359 --> 00:44:56,489
was shot over Mexico were an object to a

1033
00:45:00,829 --> 00:44:59,369
Truffaut if you will even though either

1034
00:45:05,059 --> 00:45:00,839
the gravitational field or the magnetic

1035
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,069
field I'm not sure I it's probably a

1036
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:07,920
gravity field optically collapses the

1037
00:45:13,549 --> 00:45:10,650
horizon in the distance and the amount

1038
00:45:15,769 --> 00:45:13,559
of science that you can do with those

1039
00:45:19,009 --> 00:45:15,779
few frames off that movie is just off

1040
00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:19,019
the charts and the gentleman who took

1041
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:21,660
that footage race Stanford has three

1042
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:24,960
sets of footage taken with a super 8

1043
00:45:30,979 --> 00:45:27,839
millimeter camera out airliner windows

1044
00:45:33,279 --> 00:45:30,989
and and some of the analysis work that

1045
00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:33,289
he's done on these photographs I really

1046
00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:36,660
strongly suggest that you uh you get up

1047
00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:38,430
to speed with some of the work that that

1048
00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:39,900
he's doing

1049
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:41,849
we have a bunch of questions and you

1050
00:45:49,819 --> 00:45:44,730
know I want to get a kind of a sense of

1051
00:45:54,799 --> 00:45:49,829
of how you how you sort of relate to the

1052
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:54,809
whole subject of UFOs and okay you know

1053
00:46:00,349 --> 00:45:57,690
when it comes to analyzing photos and

1054
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:00,359
videos um one of our posters psychedelic

1055
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:02,700
alchemist wants to know how you go about

1056
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:04,440
separating the wheat from the chaff when

1057
00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:06,660
it comes to photos and videos of UFOs

1058
00:46:13,069 --> 00:46:09,750
what is your methodology well there's

1059
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,079
first of all my approach is a scientific

1060
00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:15,839
approach where I take the approach that

1061
00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:17,579
is the following and people call me

1062
00:46:21,380 --> 00:46:18,990
debunker for this and I'm certainly not

1063
00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:21,390
I'm a believer I've had a terrifying

1064
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:23,220
experience of my own that I certainly

1065
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:25,020
can't explain and that I live with every

1066
00:46:28,970 --> 00:46:27,210
day I will ask you to explain that

1067
00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:28,980
experience after you answer Chris

1068
00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:31,740
expression but the methodology that I

1069
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:36,329
use is I endeavor to try to explain an

1070
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:38,490
object in terms of something that might

1071
00:46:44,569 --> 00:46:41,099
be as I said before an ordinary object

1072
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:44,579
captured in an extraordinary way this

1073
00:46:51,529 --> 00:46:47,520
methodology works very well to try and

1074
00:46:55,130 --> 00:46:51,539
weed out the mistaken objects from

1075
00:46:57,769 --> 00:46:55,140
potential real objects my goal is to not

1076
00:47:00,769 --> 00:46:57,779
be able to solve one of these mysteries

1077
00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:00,779
that's my goal and I'm disappointed

1078
00:47:07,779 --> 00:47:04,740
every time I do now the question is when

1079
00:47:09,859 --> 00:47:07,789
I look at a photo and I see a blur

1080
00:47:12,859 --> 00:47:09,869
there's a whole bunch of things that go

1081
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:12,869
through your mind okay but when I see a

1082
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:14,430
photo taken at night where the flash

1083
00:47:19,549 --> 00:47:16,770
went off I use a different approach and

1084
00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:19,559
it's like almost every single scenario

1085
00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:21,630
has a different approach required okay

1086
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:23,819
and I'll tell you why when the flash

1087
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:26,130
goes off a whole set of parameters and a

1088
00:47:30,529 --> 00:47:28,529
whole set of things happen that you have

1089
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:30,539
to pay attention to things that are

1090
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:32,760
instantaneously illuminated by a flash

1091
00:47:37,789 --> 00:47:36,000
become important whereas when you just

1092
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,799
have a exposure if someone took at the

1093
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:39,359
cool storm cloud and there's this really

1094
00:47:44,650 --> 00:47:42,720
cool looking streaked blur that they

1095
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:44,660
didn't see when they took the picture

1096
00:47:49,269 --> 00:47:47,460
that is a different approach that is a

1097
00:47:51,170 --> 00:47:49,279
regular photo so you don't care about

1098
00:47:53,780 --> 00:47:51,180
instantaneously lit things you care

1099
00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:53,790
about things that are actually dry

1100
00:47:59,330 --> 00:47:56,070
and blurred in a short time exposure

1101
00:48:03,410 --> 00:47:59,340
okay so when you look at say that streak

1102
00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:03,420
in the sky to rebuild that streak as a

1103
00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:08,030
bird takes some effort but it takes

1104
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:09,870
experimentation and one of the things

1105
00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:13,290
that I do nowadays and I've been doing

1106
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,390
it now for about a year is when I see a

1107
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:18,240
UFO photograph or video that I can't you

1108
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:21,870
know readily explain without sounding

1109
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:23,490
like I'm saying say it's a trick of

1110
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:25,890
light and shadow or something I recreate

1111
00:48:31,850 --> 00:48:28,920
it so that I can actually and this is my

1112
00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:31,860
methodology so I can actually show why I

1113
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:33,480
believe it's what it is instead of just

1114
00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:35,010
saying what I believe it's what it is I

1115
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:37,350
show them why and this is in part

1116
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:38,730
because I don't want people to think

1117
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:40,710
that I'm just debunking things I want

1118
00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:42,690
them to see that I'm not doing that but

1119
00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:44,460
I'm actually doing experimentation and

1120
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:46,350
when I have the time I will do this

1121
00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:49,560
there was a disc at a Cotulla Texas oil

1122
00:48:55,820 --> 00:48:53,460
field and I saw this disc and I to me it

1123
00:48:57,590 --> 00:48:55,830
looked like mmm the security camera took

1124
00:48:59,720 --> 00:48:57,600
a time exposure a two-second or one

1125
00:49:03,470 --> 00:48:59,730
second exposure and that looks like a

1126
00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:03,480
car that was caught on the video with

1127
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:05,460
its blinker on going through the field

1128
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:08,970
and I was immediately harassed for that

1129
00:49:14,810 --> 00:49:12,960
until I recreated it and I took my truck

1130
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:14,820
up to a parking lot at night and I did

1131
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:16,380
the exact same thing and I reproduced

1132
00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:19,260
exactly what that this looked like using

1133
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:21,870
my truck so then people went silent

1134
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,180
because they realized well okay you know

1135
00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:26,480
there it is right in front you so

1136
00:49:31,550 --> 00:49:29,640
methodology main methodology is that you

1137
00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:31,560
know there is no particular methodology

1138
00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:33,900
based on a scenario based on all

1139
00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:35,670
scenario third but it's it's specific to

1140
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:37,830
each but the most important thing is I

1141
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:39,900
try to recreate it and that is something

1142
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:42,990
that really really helps that's how I

1143
00:49:47,210 --> 00:49:45,210
that's how I explained the NASA tether

1144
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:47,220
incident for National Geographic show I

1145
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:49,560
actually recreated the NASA tether

1146
00:49:54,350 --> 00:49:51,960
incident in the studio and we went right

1147
00:49:56,090 --> 00:49:54,360
through did everything showed how almost

1148
00:49:58,610 --> 00:49:56,100
things occurred show how they weren't

1149
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,620
really large UFOs in fact ninety miles

1150
00:50:02,030 --> 00:50:00,240
away there were small auto focused

1151
00:50:05,930 --> 00:50:02,040
particles in the foreground and when I

1152
00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:05,940
showed it you can't argue with what you

1153
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:08,040
see with your own eyes you know and so

1154
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:11,210
it's it's tough sometimes but you know

1155
00:50:17,740 --> 00:50:13,110
recreating it actually makes the

1156
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:17,750
difference in this age of CG and and

1157
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:20,460
digital effects that are very accessible

1158
00:50:26,570 --> 00:50:23,160
and and coming down in price I mean

1159
00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:26,580
weekly it seems it's getting more and

1160
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:29,100
more easier actually it's getting easier

1161
00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:32,460
for people to to come up with some what

1162
00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:34,680
appear to to the amateur I think to be

1163
00:50:42,620 --> 00:50:39,870
fairly impressive of UFOs but real UFOs

1164
00:50:43,790 --> 00:50:42,630
don't look like the billy meier wedding

1165
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:43,800
cake

1166
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:49,290
Adamski shot with the three sawed in

1167
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:52,110
half golf ping-pong balls underneath

1168
00:50:57,170 --> 00:50:54,300
well you see what happened here is a dam

1169
00:51:00,920 --> 00:50:57,180
see was a big fan of ping pong balls and

1170
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:00,930
he imagined that et loved to play ping

1171
00:51:07,010 --> 00:51:03,510
pong and they loved it so much they use

1172
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:07,020
the ping pong balls as landing gear for

1173
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:09,180
the UFOs does this make any sense ladies

1174
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:10,680
and gentlemen I know it doesn't but we

1175
00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:12,900
have to do our brake Mark Dantonio is

1176
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:16,230
the chief analyst of photos and videos

1177
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:19,530
for MUFON the mutual UFO network a lot

1178
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:21,510
of ground to cover and maybe you'll

1179
00:51:27,980 --> 00:51:25,200
learn after this how not to fake a UFO

1180
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:27,990
photo and how to capture the picture of

1181
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:30,660
one if you do see something strange with

1182
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:32,640
Jean and with Kris you're in the para

1183
00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:40,910
we are the premier independent talk

1184
00:51:49,609 --> 00:51:44,280
radio network the genesis communications

1185
00:51:51,740 --> 00:51:49,619
network G C n next to water and food you

1186
00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:51,750
need a safe storable fuel supply for

1187
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:54,180
your preparedness needs spare fuel is

1188
00:51:57,260 --> 00:51:55,290
the answer

1189
00:51:59,720 --> 00:51:57,270
spare fuel can be used in any gas

1190
00:52:02,060 --> 00:51:59,730
powered vehicle or generator spare fuel

1191
00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:02,070
is perfect for any unforeseen out of gas

1192
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:05,190
emergencies unlike gasoline spare fuel

1193
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,720
is safe to store with your other

1194
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,119
supplies and it can be stored for many

1195
00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:12,480
years go to get spare fuel calm for a

1196
00:52:19,070 --> 00:52:15,240
special pricing that's get spare fuel

1197
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:19,080
calm hi this is 10 Anderson have you

1198
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:20,730
ever wondered why banks stockbrokers

1199
00:52:24,380 --> 00:52:22,290
investment advisors won't talk about

1200
00:52:26,780 --> 00:52:24,390
gold IRAs they've been available since

1201
00:52:28,550 --> 00:52:26,790
1986 yet the financial industry won't

1202
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:28,560
recognize the value of gold for your

1203
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:30,510
retirement goal does outperform paper

1204
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:32,730
investments yet no word about IRAs

1205
00:52:38,089 --> 00:52:34,410
if you would like to have gold for your

1206
00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:38,099
retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

1207
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:39,960
left behind by rising inflation and low

1208
00:53:48,890 --> 00:52:43,980
returns call 866 to 237 secure your

1209
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:54,310
[Music]

1210
00:54:02,349 --> 00:53:58,010
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1211
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:02,359
standard of paranormal radio and now

1212
00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:10,770
here's Jane Steinberg on the para cast

1213
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:12,390
with Gene and Cris talking to Mark

1214
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:16,020
Dantonio the person who analyzes photos

1215
00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:18,570
the chief photo analysts for MUFON just

1216
00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:20,070
want to mention something here we still

1217
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,980
have that free copy of secrets of the

1218
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:25,200
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1219
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1220
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:30,720
copy you go to the para cast com the

1221
00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:33,210
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1222
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:35,880
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1223
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:37,710
get your copy of the book Cris you want

1224
00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:40,050
to pursue further questions well there

1225
00:54:44,770 --> 00:54:42,750
are several questions that kind of are

1226
00:54:47,690 --> 00:54:44,780
asking the same thing and that is

1227
00:54:50,180 --> 00:54:47,700
obviously the vast majority of UFO

1228
00:54:52,460 --> 00:54:50,190
photos and videos can be explained in

1229
00:54:55,099 --> 00:54:52,470
one way or another do you think it's a

1230
00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:55,109
waste of time to pour over hundreds and

1231
00:55:00,680 --> 00:54:57,150
hundreds of shots and maybe come up with

1232
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:00,690
a handful that that pass muster and and

1233
00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:03,330
are truly anomalous I mean don't you

1234
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,270
ever kind of scratch your head and go

1235
00:55:10,460 --> 00:55:08,640
why do I do this I mean what's the

1236
00:55:13,099 --> 00:55:10,470
motivation is your motivation to really

1237
00:55:15,710 --> 00:55:13,109
find that that slam dunk shot or or a

1238
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,720
bit of footage and and doesn't it get a

1239
00:55:19,630 --> 00:55:18,000
little bit depressing then and kind of

1240
00:55:22,609 --> 00:55:19,640
boring after a while point over

1241
00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:22,619
out-of-focus insects orbs caught at

1242
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:25,020
night particular matter close to the

1243
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:26,760
camera illuminated out-of-focus in a

1244
00:55:32,839 --> 00:55:30,030
flash insects birds with their wings

1245
00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:32,849
folded dye bombing that sort of thing

1246
00:55:36,410 --> 00:55:34,920
does it get old after a while I know

1247
00:55:38,570 --> 00:55:36,420
something it doesn't do you know why

1248
00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:38,580
because the only thing standing between

1249
00:55:44,210 --> 00:55:41,640
us and extraterrestrial visitors is

1250
00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:44,220
their science we have to further our

1251
00:55:48,140 --> 00:55:46,200
science and it means going down this

1252
00:55:49,790 --> 00:55:48,150
path this is how we're gonna do it it's

1253
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:49,800
like the only way we're gonna find life

1254
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:52,320
around other worlds in my view is to

1255
00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:53,970
analyze the atmospheres of the planets

1256
00:55:58,460 --> 00:55:56,550
from Earth as we can see them around you

1257
00:55:59,930 --> 00:55:58,470
know planets around other stars if we

1258
00:56:01,579 --> 00:55:59,940
see oxygen and a planet that has

1259
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:01,589
attendance you know habitable zone where

1260
00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:03,930
water can exist then the likelihood that

1261
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:06,740
that's produced by life is fairly high

1262
00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:09,470
have to walk a path before we can get to

1263
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,150
that end point where we actually have

1264
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:13,119
some confidence and we can actually see

1265
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:17,050
potentially alien life I think that if

1266
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:19,970
aliens exist us I believe they do and

1267
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:22,970
that they're probably here and have been

1268
00:56:29,470 --> 00:56:26,930
here well it's not a mystery to me you

1269
00:56:30,609 --> 00:56:29,480
know the the Fermi paradox you know well

1270
00:56:32,890 --> 00:56:30,619
you know where are they

1271
00:56:34,210 --> 00:56:32,900
it's not a mystery to me that no one's

1272
00:56:36,820 --> 00:56:34,220
seeing them because I believe that the

1273
00:56:38,590 --> 00:56:36,830
techniques required this is a scientific

1274
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,600
belief the techniques required to travel

1275
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:40,400
interstellar will preclude them from

1276
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:45,050
being particularly visible and are X Y &

1277
00:56:48,670 --> 00:56:46,850
Z all moving through time of our

1278
00:56:51,310 --> 00:56:48,680
universe our universe in particular and

1279
00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:51,320
that's you know sounds science-fiction

1280
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:54,230
but it's actually related into string

1281
00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:55,730
theory which we're not gonna get into of

1282
00:57:02,500 --> 00:56:59,090
course but as far as disappointment now

1283
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:02,510
you know because this is to me a means

1284
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:03,110
to an end

1285
00:57:06,609 --> 00:57:04,910
am I disappointed that this particular

1286
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:06,619
really cool video turned out to just be

1287
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:08,930
a CG fake well sure you know you call

1288
00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:10,730
that disappointment from what you can

1289
00:57:18,849 --> 00:57:16,190
hire the guy in particular we've been

1290
00:57:21,490 --> 00:57:18,859
very pleased I've been very pleased that

1291
00:57:24,550 --> 00:57:21,500
the you know photo analysis unit team

1292
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:24,560
within leuf on is with me has been very

1293
00:57:30,700 --> 00:57:28,400
very dedicated to learning the

1294
00:57:32,050 --> 00:57:30,710
idiosyncratic behavior of cameras

1295
00:57:35,230 --> 00:57:32,060
whether cell phone

1296
00:57:38,530 --> 00:57:35,240
infrared specialty platforms but to the

1297
00:57:40,750 --> 00:57:38,540
to that end in trying to get past the

1298
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:40,760
issue with cameras that's where Doug

1299
00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:42,710
Trumbull and I come in and with our

1300
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:45,350
system I mentioned to you before and you

1301
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:49,040
and I think it was Eugene that laughed

1302
00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:53,030
it that the name you photography tog was

1303
00:57:58,359 --> 00:57:55,070
Doug trommel's original invention which

1304
00:58:00,130 --> 00:57:58,369
was a Humvee with a hydraulic lift that

1305
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,140
brought multiple instruments out of it

1306
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:02,960
to scan the night sky and the idea was

1307
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:04,730
that multiple instruments were taken

1308
00:58:11,230 --> 00:58:08,230
their own versions of the sighting now

1309
00:58:13,450 --> 00:58:11,240
that was one unit and when I joined Doug

1310
00:58:15,250 --> 00:58:13,460
around five years ago I said why don't

1311
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:15,260
we make this thing smaller and make it

1312
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:18,410
at the playable platter and have them

1313
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:20,090
talk to each others and the

1314
00:58:25,330 --> 00:58:22,790
Theo alerts by satellite and we can go

1315
00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:25,340
to whole nine yards and he was intrigued

1316
00:58:30,430 --> 00:58:27,470
yeah but you gotta know where to park it

1317
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:30,440
actually let me explain that when you

1318
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:33,200
when you look at the night sky it's huge

1319
00:58:37,540 --> 00:58:34,910
you're absolutely right so what we've

1320
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:37,550
done is we actually put together a team

1321
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:39,290
of scientists from around the country

1322
00:58:45,610 --> 00:58:43,850
and then most of them are all National

1323
00:58:47,830 --> 00:58:45,620
Laboratory scientists either current or

1324
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:47,840
former and they're all on board and

1325
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:50,000
they're all working with us and they're

1326
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,090
creating units that are gonna be on

1327
00:58:57,490 --> 00:58:55,760
these platters you know we're we're all

1328
00:59:00,430 --> 00:58:57,500
doing this out of our pocket right now

1329
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:00,440
we're not funded yet you know Doug and I

1330
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:01,910
were talking about options for funding

1331
00:59:05,740 --> 00:59:03,530
and so forth there's there are people

1332
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:05,750
that are very motivated and in getting

1333
00:59:09,790 --> 00:59:07,850
involved with us but one of the things

1334
00:59:12,010 --> 00:59:09,800
that's important here is that each of

1335
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:12,020
our systems is gonna be a small serving

1336
00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:14,450
dish sized platter with cameras that are

1337
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:16,550
gonna look at the sky all the time it's

1338
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:18,470
gonna look in the ultraviolet infrared

1339
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:21,920
visible range it's gonna have ways to

1340
00:59:27,130 --> 00:59:23,870
the tech aircraft and know that their

1341
00:59:29,410 --> 00:59:27,140
aircraft and not other things they have

1342
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:29,420
onboard satellite database so they can

1343
00:59:35,130 --> 00:59:32,210
actually see that that little light

1344
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:35,140
going over is actually you know a

1345
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:40,310
satellite in which one and like there

1346
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:43,040
are software packages like FlightAware

1347
00:59:50,140 --> 00:59:45,290
for instance that'll give you a name of

1348
00:59:52,690 --> 00:59:50,150
all transponding flights right motion

1349
00:59:54,910 --> 00:59:52,700
detection and record on motion the way

1350
00:59:57,580 --> 00:59:54,920
that actually works actually is each

1351
00:59:59,920 --> 00:59:57,590
frame of the camera will simply it's

1352
01:00:02,620 --> 00:59:59,930
gonna be subtracted from the previous

1353
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,630
frame anything that's there is something

1354
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:03,920
that shouldn't be there it's a new

1355
01:00:07,870 --> 01:00:04,880
moment in you alert

1356
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:07,880
so it'll then average those out over a

1357
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:09,440
few frames and see if it's really there

1358
01:00:13,180 --> 01:00:11,150
an artifact of the the camera because

1359
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:13,190
they can do that and that determines

1360
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:14,330
what they're Knoller that's a very

1361
01:00:17,650 --> 01:00:15,530
simple installation for a very

1362
01:00:19,060 --> 01:00:17,660
complicated process but one of the

1363
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:19,070
scientists on the team is the guy that

1364
01:00:25,090 --> 01:00:21,820
created with his team the lunar orbiter

1365
01:00:26,590 --> 01:00:25,100
clementines camera so we're talking

1366
01:00:28,780 --> 01:00:26,600
about people that get these things

1367
01:00:30,220 --> 01:00:28,790
working right out of the box okay these

1368
01:00:32,410 --> 01:00:30,230
guys you don't put a satellite in orbit

1369
01:00:33,110 --> 01:00:32,420
and have it say oops I forgot to connect

1370
01:00:35,210 --> 01:00:33,120
that wire

1371
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:35,220
yeah you know these guys get it right

1372
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:36,870
out of the box and so the you

1373
01:00:42,590 --> 01:00:39,210
photometers are called you Fatah - as a

1374
01:00:46,330 --> 01:00:42,600
successor and our goal is to deploy them

1375
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:46,340
in hot spots that people have identified

1376
01:00:52,010 --> 01:00:49,650
we've talked to some Native peoples and

1377
01:00:55,310 --> 01:00:52,020
they're motivated to allow us onto their

1378
01:00:57,020 --> 01:00:55,320
lands to place units there give us a

1379
01:00:59,960 --> 01:00:57,030
short list of some of the hot spot areas

1380
01:01:01,910 --> 01:00:59,970
you've ID'd well we have a couple that

1381
01:01:03,620 --> 01:01:01,920
you know we have for instance there's

1382
01:01:06,050 --> 01:01:03,630
one Native American reservation for

1383
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:06,060
instance that has a generational

1384
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:08,730
exposure to unidentified flying objects

1385
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,450
now

1386
01:01:12,410 --> 01:01:11,040
just because we talk about Native

1387
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:12,420
peoples doesn't mean they didn't go to

1388
01:01:15,350 --> 01:01:13,440
college and if they're not educated

1389
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:15,360
these people are very smart people and

1390
01:01:19,820 --> 01:01:17,730
they know the difference between

1391
01:01:21,970 --> 01:01:19,830
airplanes and satellites and all that

1392
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:21,980
and they even understand the natural

1393
01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:24,720
phenomena like lights that occur because

1394
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:26,520
of maybe the field interactions on the

1395
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:29,280
ground all right more so than a lot of

1396
01:01:35,570 --> 01:01:32,070
other people and these people being so

1397
01:01:37,610 --> 01:01:35,580
savvy are dumbfounded by the fact that

1398
01:01:41,420 --> 01:01:37,620
there's some lights that keep showing up

1399
01:01:43,220 --> 01:01:41,430
out in their reservation lands that have

1400
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:43,230
no source they don't seem to be coming

1401
01:01:47,590 --> 01:01:44,970
from someplace anywhere so they want to

1402
01:01:51,140 --> 01:01:47,600
know what they are so that's an example

1403
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:51,150
we heard about in the 1990s there was a

1404
01:01:57,070 --> 01:01:54,540
USO an unknown submerged object flap

1405
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,080
that occurred off the Santa Catalina

1406
01:02:02,210 --> 01:01:59,760
Indiana Catalina channel in Southern

1407
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:02,220
California and that's a relatively deep

1408
01:02:06,350 --> 01:02:04,170
channel that had really odd occurrences

1409
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:06,360
over 200 sightings occurred over just a

1410
01:02:12,050 --> 01:02:10,200
few you know weeks or days and so we

1411
01:02:14,290 --> 01:02:12,060
would go to those kind of hotspots all

1412
01:02:16,190 --> 01:02:14,300
right and we also want to deploy

1413
01:02:18,350 --> 01:02:16,200
regularly because we believe that

1414
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:18,360
they're out there you know and around

1415
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:21,090
here we think I think that if they would

1416
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:23,130
come interstellar that they would set up

1417
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:24,930
probably deep in our oceans because they

1418
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:26,970
could and that's the place to go not

1419
01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:28,410
because of the movie the abyss I thought

1420
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:30,150
about this before the Epistle when I saw

1421
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:31,710
that movie I said hey that's what I

1422
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:34,260
think well Hollywood steals ideas from

1423
01:02:41,900 --> 01:02:38,370
everyone but the point the point is here

1424
01:02:43,700 --> 01:02:41,910
that these systems aren't just visual or

1425
01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:43,710
our platters aren't going to be visual

1426
01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:44,550
systems alone

1427
01:02:49,340 --> 01:02:46,980
we have radiation detectors magnetic

1428
01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:49,350
detectors EMF detectors we have

1429
01:02:54,050 --> 01:02:51,840
corroborated data meaning I corroborate

1430
01:02:56,990 --> 01:02:54,060
the data with another piece of data

1431
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:57,000
that's independently acquired if we have

1432
01:03:00,530 --> 01:02:59,160
a visual object come into our field and

1433
01:03:03,530 --> 01:03:00,540
we see it oh look there's a little thing

1434
01:03:07,490 --> 01:03:03,540
flying into the field then we see the

1435
01:03:09,530 --> 01:03:07,500
magnetic anomaly detector now says whoa

1436
01:03:12,140 --> 01:03:09,540
the magnetic field is shifting now and

1437
01:03:14,359 --> 01:03:12,150
then we see that the EMF you know the

1438
01:03:16,010 --> 01:03:14,369
electro electricity and static charge in

1439
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:16,020
the area is now increasing radically

1440
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:17,520
that's important

1441
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:19,710
one thing is corroborating it's either

1442
01:03:23,630 --> 01:03:21,690
you have multiple data points up to one

1443
01:03:25,099 --> 01:03:23,640
siding rather than just a strange light

1444
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:25,109
that would just be dismissed say as a

1445
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:27,270
satellite or possibly an airplane and

1446
01:03:31,099 --> 01:03:28,530
that's always a problem with a lot of

1447
01:03:33,590 --> 01:03:31,109
the photos we see could be anything Mark

1448
01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:33,600
Dantonio does this sort of thing for a

1449
01:03:38,210 --> 01:03:35,369
living in terms of special effects and

1450
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:38,220
analysis and also works with MUFON with

1451
01:03:48,290 --> 01:03:40,200
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1465
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critically acclaimed success and now

1466
01:04:23,450 --> 01:04:21,330
there's the coming of the protectors a

1467
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:23,460
former military intelligence man is

1468
01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:25,770
contacted by a space woman in a dream a

1469
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:27,540
dream that turns out to be a nightmare

1470
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:29,970
because evil forces on our distant

1471
01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:32,010
planet are planning to conquer the earth

1472
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:34,350
this is gripping science fiction of the

1473
01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,810
classic kind attack of the rock codes

1474
01:04:40,970 --> 01:04:38,880
and the coming of the protectors find

1475
01:04:46,370 --> 01:04:40,980
out more at Rocko it's calm that's

1476
01:04:48,140 --> 01:04:46,380
rockets our Ock oids calm gold isn't for

1477
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:48,150
you Ted Anderson president of Midas

1478
01:04:51,890 --> 01:04:49,950
resources one of the world's premier

1479
01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:51,900
gold and precious metal investing firms

1480
01:04:55,820 --> 01:04:53,940
I get it you wouldn't buy gold if you

1481
01:04:58,010 --> 01:04:55,830
believed that the government is doing a

1482
01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:58,020
great job that the Fed will stop handing

1483
01:05:02,000 --> 01:04:59,940
out trillions of dollars like Bill

1484
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:02,010
that Social Security would be there for

1485
01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:03,690
you that's not what's happening

1486
01:05:08,180 --> 01:05:05,790
you might even pass on gold if the

1487
01:05:09,980 --> 01:05:08,190
stimulus package wouldn't fuel inflation

1488
01:05:11,930 --> 01:05:09,990
or that the dollar wouldn't lose value

1489
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:11,940
or that your retirement would be secure

1490
01:05:16,340 --> 01:05:14,400
if all looks rosy to you then now is not

1491
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:16,350
the time to buy goal for the realists

1492
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:17,760
there have never been more sobering

1493
01:05:23,570 --> 01:05:20,010
reasons to diversify with gold since

1494
01:05:25,220 --> 01:05:23,580
2001 the US Dollar Index has tanked 30%

1495
01:05:27,260 --> 01:05:25,230
while gold has risen three hundred

1496
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:27,270
percent right now savvy investors are

1497
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,280
adding gold to their portfolios you

1498
01:05:32,930 --> 01:05:31,200
should to find out what they know

1499
01:05:34,910 --> 01:05:32,940
call us and I'll send you 10 reasons why

1500
01:05:36,740 --> 01:05:34,920
gold will do very well three eight

1501
01:05:38,990 --> 01:05:36,750
hundred six eight six two two three

1502
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:39,000
seven eight hundred six eight six two

1503
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:40,770
two three seventy that's eight hundred

1504
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six eight six two two three seven what

1505
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:50,640
good is a big berkey water filter we get

1506
01:05:54,590 --> 01:05:52,290
that question a lot here at big berkey

1507
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water filters calm and in a word the

1508
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answer is protection protection from

1509
01:06:01,460 --> 01:05:58,980
water main breaks ecoli contamination

1510
01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:01,470
environmental chemical spills pesticide

1511
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1512
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forms of fluoride plus big berkey water

1513
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filters are the original gravity water

1514
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filter system and most trusted on the

1515
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market for a reason tested by multiple

1516
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1517
01:06:18,740 --> 01:06:16,530
are the gold standard in water

1518
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1519
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cents a gallon a single set of filters

1520
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can last for five to ten years

1521
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that means big savings big berkey the

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1525
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1529
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1530
01:06:51,290 --> 01:06:49,380
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1531
01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:51,300
and security wouldn't you like to make

1532
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,430
your money work harder for you then you

1533
01:06:57,770 --> 01:06:55,440
should consider joining Phil's gang Tom

1534
01:07:01,220 --> 01:06:57,780
worth thousands of individual investors

1535
01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:01,230
have successfully profited I'm up 60

1536
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:03,390
percent on my portfolio following your

1537
01:07:13,820 --> 01:07:11,970
system for a long time and you're really

1538
01:07:14,930 --> 01:07:13,830
one of the best I've ever heard I just

1539
01:07:17,090 --> 01:07:14,940
won't let you know how great what a

1540
01:07:19,340 --> 01:07:17,100
great teacher are for over a decade

1541
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:19,350
Phil's gang calms Phil grandi and Donald

1542
01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:21,450
Cogswell have been teaching coaching and

1543
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:23,550
investing right along with all Phil's

1544
01:07:27,950 --> 01:07:26,250
gang members Donnie for market rep I

1545
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:27,960
bought twenty five hundred shares of Au

1546
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:31,290
I can't fold it the twenty eight hundred

1547
01:07:34,820 --> 01:07:33,030
and twenty dollar project why not join

1548
01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:34,830
thousands of satisfied Phil's gang

1549
01:07:39,980 --> 01:07:37,500
customers today go to Phil's gang calm

1550
01:07:42,110 --> 01:07:39,990
Phil's gang calm or call eight seven

1551
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:42,120
seven six hundred four two six four

1552
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:43,920
that's eight seven seven six hundred

1553
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four two six four call today we'd like

1554
01:07:54,380 --> 01:07:51,780
to hear from you if you have a comment

1555
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:54,390
or question about the para cast sent it

1556
01:08:00,890 --> 01:07:57,450
to News at the para cast com

1557
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,900
that's news at the para cast calm and

1558
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don't forget to visit our famous para

1559
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cast community forums at forum dot the

1560
01:08:12,500 --> 01:08:10,380
para cast comm here on the power cast we

1561
01:08:16,820 --> 01:08:12,510
have Mark Dantonio who's educating all

1562
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:16,830
of us now on practical issues involved

1563
01:08:22,250 --> 01:08:19,290
in getting a decent photo of a UFO even

1564
01:08:24,980 --> 01:08:22,260
if you see one but we're missing a point

1565
01:08:27,350 --> 01:08:24,990
here the point being that triangulation

1566
01:08:30,530 --> 01:08:27,360
having multiple cameras focused on a

1567
01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:30,540
single aerial event is the the golden

1568
01:08:35,690 --> 01:08:32,450
egg that is where you're going to get

1569
01:08:38,420 --> 01:08:35,700
some of the best quality data I love the

1570
01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:38,430
idea of having a magnetic field

1571
01:08:45,770 --> 01:08:42,900
detectors EMF even radar would be pretty

1572
01:08:47,420 --> 01:08:45,780
nice to have as well and talked about

1573
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:47,430
it's too expensive to implement on the

1574
01:08:51,770 --> 01:08:48,410
first-base

1575
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:51,780
yeah there's marine radar units that you

1576
01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:54,750
can have on a robotic platform that go

1577
01:08:58,790 --> 01:08:57,420
out to 40 miles and with a certain

1578
01:08:59,729 --> 01:08:58,800
amount of dampening you can actually

1579
01:09:03,209 --> 01:08:59,739
have that

1580
01:09:06,090 --> 01:09:03,219
have a very narrow window which would be

1581
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,100
tied to the to the actual location of

1582
01:09:10,110 --> 01:09:08,560
the object I'm involved in in a project

1583
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:10,120
called the San Luis Valley camera

1584
01:09:14,220 --> 01:09:11,950
project where we're going to be putting

1585
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:14,230
cameras on cell towers and mountaintops

1586
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:16,810
and we're working with a software

1587
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:19,710
designer to attempt to you know design

1588
01:09:25,769 --> 01:09:23,290
detect motion and then you know motion

1589
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:25,779
tracking software based on the real shop

1590
01:09:31,229 --> 01:09:28,150
manager platform so that we can get

1591
01:09:32,849 --> 01:09:31,239
triangulated data a single camera is

1592
01:09:36,599 --> 01:09:32,859
only gonna be able to tell you so much

1593
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,609
if you have a minimum of two obviously

1594
01:09:40,890 --> 01:09:39,040
vantage points and the optimum would be

1595
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:40,900
three or more you'll be able to

1596
01:09:49,170 --> 01:09:43,810
determine all sorts of wonderful things

1597
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:49,180
size distance data energy extension we

1598
01:09:52,829 --> 01:09:50,799
talked about our units I was talking

1599
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:52,839
about a singular unit but you didn't ask

1600
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:54,370
me how we're planning on deploying them

1601
01:09:58,740 --> 01:09:57,040
and I've done presentations around the

1602
01:10:01,740 --> 01:09:58,750
country discussing our deployment

1603
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:01,750
methodology and we call them triads we

1604
01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:03,850
deploy them in equilateral triangles one

1605
01:10:08,970 --> 01:10:06,700
at each point yeah exactly exactly and

1606
01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:08,980
we need to have corroborated data at

1607
01:10:13,530 --> 01:10:11,800
each platter location but we also need

1608
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:13,540
the corroborating data between two

1609
01:10:18,959 --> 01:10:16,180
points or three points because we want

1610
01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:18,969
altitude speed distance all that

1611
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:21,640
information so that in fact is the only

1612
01:10:26,670 --> 01:10:24,730
way that we can reliably say that that's

1613
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:26,680
a satellite and not something that's

1614
01:10:32,820 --> 01:10:29,250
simulating a satellite at 47,000 feet

1615
01:10:34,530 --> 01:10:32,830
see what I mean so I've got a really

1616
01:10:40,530 --> 01:10:34,540
good place for you to deploy your one of

1617
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:40,540
your first systems incidence of UFO

1618
01:10:44,729 --> 01:10:43,330
sightings per capita Berkeley I

1619
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:44,739
personally investigated hundreds and

1620
01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:46,330
hundreds of sightings during the 90s

1621
01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:48,340
there's been a recent upsurge in

1622
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:52,270
activity in the last couple months so we

1623
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:53,650
should definitely talk at some point

1624
01:10:57,570 --> 01:10:55,690
here down the road about possibly

1625
01:11:01,229 --> 01:10:57,580
dovetailing our efforts I've got a

1626
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:01,239
software engineer uh recently retired

1627
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:03,930
from Cisco that's helping us top-notch

1628
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:07,930
guy suite he started school at Oxford at

1629
01:11:13,899 --> 01:11:12,730
16 a brilliant brilliant man definitely

1630
01:11:17,260 --> 01:11:13,909
should compare notes

1631
01:11:20,649 --> 01:11:17,270
ahead we will talk but you should also

1632
01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:20,659
make sure that he has if you have more

1633
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:22,120
than one unit to do this triangulation

1634
01:11:26,890 --> 01:11:24,190
then you want it you want to include

1635
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:26,900
something we're doing and that is these

1636
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:30,320
little xB radios xB is a nice protocol

1637
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:32,210
it's a little tiny radio it's the size

1638
01:11:37,780 --> 01:11:35,600
of your thumb has a six mile range and

1639
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,790
if the things see something if you

1640
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:39,679
haven't say you know two miles out

1641
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:42,650
somewhere you'll get an alert but the

1642
01:11:45,820 --> 01:11:44,330
nice thing is we're using them to

1643
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:45,830
communicate between nodes of the

1644
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:48,080
equilateral triangles so that each one

1645
01:11:54,879 --> 01:11:50,510
of these units will know that there's an

1646
01:11:57,250 --> 01:11:54,889
alert in progress and will focus and try

1647
01:11:59,560 --> 01:11:57,260
and acquire data in a particular

1648
01:12:01,379 --> 01:11:59,570
direction now there's no moving parts in

1649
01:12:03,580 --> 01:12:01,389
these platters these things are actually

1650
01:12:06,459 --> 01:12:03,590
separate cameras all pointing at one

1651
01:12:08,770 --> 01:12:06,469
dedicated region of their sky so what

1652
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:08,780
that means is if the northwestern

1653
01:12:14,770 --> 01:12:12,080
pointing camera say to keep it easy on

1654
01:12:16,209 --> 01:12:14,780
unit one group of three you see

1655
01:12:18,910 --> 01:12:16,219
something it's gonna talk to the other

1656
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,920
guy down the line in that same triangle

1657
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:21,199
and say hey do you see this and and its

1658
01:12:26,530 --> 01:12:23,530
cameras gonna get a higher priority and

1659
01:12:28,899 --> 01:12:26,540
see if it can see that and actually

1660
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:28,909
Institute perhaps some time exposures to

1661
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:31,489
try and grab some path data or whatever

1662
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:35,090
and the idea for longer triangle legs

1663
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:37,130
though what we've come up with is a

1664
01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:39,440
system that operates with with a

1665
01:12:46,689 --> 01:12:44,360
surprising amount of resolution over the

1666
01:12:51,310 --> 01:12:46,699
internet and they're really the latency

1667
01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:51,320
issues have been surmounted and if

1668
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:54,190
you're in an area that has internet

1669
01:13:00,209 --> 01:12:56,719
there is a way to actually utilize the

1670
01:13:03,879 --> 01:13:00,219
internet without having latency problems

1671
01:13:06,850 --> 01:13:03,889
interesting and the other thing that we

1672
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:06,860
we do also is we know we also have a

1673
01:13:10,410 --> 01:13:08,719
cell antenna on there because basically

1674
01:13:12,580 --> 01:13:10,420
there's the equivalent of a tracfone

1675
01:13:15,129 --> 01:13:12,590
included on each unit so that it can

1676
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:15,139
actually spelling home you know or you

1677
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,870
know call us or allow us to dial into it

1678
01:13:21,310 --> 01:13:19,760
in Phase two were planning on an FTP

1679
01:13:22,830 --> 01:13:21,320
server on each one of these so we can

1680
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:22,840
actually go get all the information

1681
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:26,090
directly once we see an alert but the

1682
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:27,770
question of how we're gonna see an alert

1683
01:13:32,140 --> 01:13:30,080
it's interesting because we're not

1684
01:13:34,060 --> 01:13:32,150
always gonna have cell service we're not

1685
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:34,070
always gonna have internet in fact we'll

1686
01:13:39,250 --> 01:13:36,530
have cell service and probably no

1687
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:39,260
reasonably fast internet you know if

1688
01:13:45,250 --> 01:13:42,770
it's like only a 4G type situation so

1689
01:13:48,420 --> 01:13:45,260
what we're doing and this already works

1690
01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:48,430
is when there's an alert the platter

1691
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:51,950
sends a signal to a GPS satellite and

1692
01:13:56,170 --> 01:13:54,410
that GPS satellite alerts us on our

1693
01:13:58,150 --> 01:13:56,180
smartphones this is hey look I found

1694
01:14:01,120 --> 01:13:58,160
something here's the coordinates here's

1695
01:14:02,979 --> 01:14:01,130
Who I am here's my ID you know time to

1696
01:14:05,170 --> 01:14:02,989
go check this out

1697
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:05,180
so it's time to fire up the Hummer

1698
01:14:08,979 --> 01:14:06,530
that's it right

1699
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:08,989
well the actually that's part of the

1700
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:10,130
reason why we're doing these platters

1701
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:11,930
actually is because in some of these

1702
01:14:16,420 --> 01:14:14,090
sites we want to go to there's there's

1703
01:14:18,580 --> 01:14:16,430
no access you can't get there by a

1704
01:14:21,010 --> 01:14:18,590
vehicle no matter how tough it is you

1705
01:14:23,860 --> 01:14:21,020
know it's only accessible by air perhaps

1706
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:23,870
or by long arduous hike you know because

1707
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:26,239
we're looking at doing some remote work

1708
01:14:33,070 --> 01:14:29,330
in order to study the remote areas that

1709
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:33,080
have had no interesting events going on

1710
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:37,250
now that all said I think it's important

1711
01:14:43,660 --> 01:14:40,489
to again understand that the GPS

1712
01:14:45,490 --> 01:14:43,670
solution is off the shelves we didn't

1713
01:14:47,709 --> 01:14:45,500
have to invent that now we're building

1714
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:47,719
off the spot system which is used by

1715
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:49,610
people who sail around the world it's

1716
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:52,489
used by extreme hikers who do remote

1717
01:15:00,760 --> 01:14:55,850
work when there was a book I was gonna

1718
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:00,770
help on with on volcanoes and it would

1719
01:15:05,020 --> 01:15:03,110
have taken us to Papua New Guinea where

1720
01:15:07,209 --> 01:15:05,030
we've been you know walking up the

1721
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:07,219
slopes of volcanoes there and in order

1722
01:15:10,990 --> 01:15:08,960
for us to be able to tell people where

1723
01:15:13,150 --> 01:15:11,000
we were there's no cell service there's

1724
01:15:15,370 --> 01:15:13,160
no internet we just pushed a button on

1725
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:15,380
our waistband and that little button

1726
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:17,450
transmits a pulse to a GPS satellite

1727
01:15:20,740 --> 01:15:19,610
which goes to anyone you want and tells

1728
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:20,750
them anything you want

1729
01:15:26,380 --> 01:15:24,770
so it's a tremendous system and we're

1730
01:15:28,750 --> 01:15:26,390
gonna modify it for each of our platters

1731
01:15:30,490 --> 01:15:28,760
to be an alert system because it's

1732
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:30,500
already built into the GPS protocols

1733
01:15:35,709 --> 01:15:33,920
it's great so this is how you know you

1734
01:15:38,290 --> 01:15:35,719
get signal when you don't have any and

1735
01:15:41,229 --> 01:15:38,300
then if people have to go out there and

1736
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:41,239
retrieve data manually for the first

1737
01:15:47,049 --> 01:15:44,090
that's okay we caught the data it's on a

1738
01:15:50,259 --> 01:15:47,059
high-res you know card I'm bored in

1739
01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:50,269
phase one you know now let me just ask a

1740
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:52,280
couple of questions here and we have to

1741
01:15:56,379 --> 01:15:54,050
break in a moment I think the main

1742
01:15:58,450 --> 01:15:56,389
question of course is this is all

1743
01:16:01,330 --> 01:15:58,460
predicated on a certain degree of

1744
01:16:02,799 --> 01:16:01,340
predictability in some areas of UFO

1745
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:02,809
sightings because if you're dealing with

1746
01:16:06,609 --> 01:16:04,730
events that you can't predict it's

1747
01:16:08,410 --> 01:16:06,619
pretty difficult to set things up in

1748
01:16:11,020 --> 01:16:08,420
advance most of the problems we have

1749
01:16:13,890 --> 01:16:11,030
with UFO photos and movies is the fact

1750
01:16:16,660 --> 01:16:13,900
that these are unplanned events and

1751
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:16,670
suddenly a person who may not be very

1752
01:16:22,029 --> 01:16:19,369
trained is forced to try to do the best

1753
01:16:24,129 --> 01:16:22,039
they can and regardless of the quality

1754
01:16:26,350 --> 01:16:24,139
of the camera it may not be good enough

1755
01:16:28,779 --> 01:16:26,360
let's get some more just in a moment

1756
01:16:46,330 --> 01:16:28,789
we have Mark Dantonio joining gene and

1757
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Chris you're in the para cast graphic

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for the rest of us it does not use any

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1766
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scanners need to do some image editing

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you can do that too and graphic

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converter also print catalogs convert

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this alert just came in this special

1781
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announcement is for business owners and

1782
01:17:57,209 --> 01:17:55,010
leaders of organizations who've been

1783
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waiting for the right time to build

1784
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general steel has made it impossible to

1785
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wait any longer with rock-bottom prices

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that could save you thousands that's

1787
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right general steel America's leader in

1788
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1789
01:18:12,669 --> 01:18:10,219
buildings at prices you will never see

1790
01:18:15,790 --> 01:18:12,679
again don't miss these prices of 50 by

1791
01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:15,800
100 for $35,000 you heard right that's

1792
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:18,230
5000 square feet for $35,000

1793
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:20,000
manufacturers if you need a larger

1794
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building try a 100 by 100 commercial

1795
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,600
building for a hundred and twenty nine

1796
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:25,520
thousand you can't afford to rent with

1797
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these prices imagine a 70 by 100 foot

1798
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church building for under sixty nine

1799
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thousand dollars with the economy

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01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,230
improving and interest rate still at

1801
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historic lows you can't afford to wait

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1831
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1832
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you can't pay our tax debts crippling

1833
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1838
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call 834 no tax to finally get free of

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1853
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1856
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1857
01:20:55,780 --> 01:20:53,210
end hello this is rosemary ellen guiley

1858
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:55,790
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1859
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1860
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:13,030
so we're learning all the great

1861
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techniques that Mark and his colleagues

1862
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:19,820
are setting up here to be able to take

1863
01:21:22,300 --> 01:21:20,570
pictures

1864
01:21:24,850 --> 01:21:22,310
triangulate do the things that are

1865
01:21:29,130 --> 01:21:24,860
necessary to get really good solid

1866
01:21:31,630 --> 01:21:29,140
photos of UFOs if only they cooperate

1867
01:21:33,610 --> 01:21:31,640
you could write a scientific paper if

1868
01:21:35,260 --> 01:21:33,620
you got triangulated footage with the

1869
01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:35,270
kind of gear that marking and then

1870
01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:38,420
tumblr are you using oh absolutely but I

1871
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:40,310
wanted to just ask something else that

1872
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:41,810
you raised earlier in the show I don't

1873
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:44,210
want to get away from it because of the

1874
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:45,530
fact that you're trained in astronomy

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01:21:50,740 --> 01:21:48,440
mark and that is these extrasolar

1876
01:21:54,570 --> 01:21:50,750
planets that were discovering all in all

1877
01:21:57,190 --> 01:21:54,580
now physically speaking here these

1878
01:21:58,960 --> 01:21:57,200
satellite born telescopes Kepler and

1879
01:22:01,390 --> 01:21:58,970
then the Hubble telescope some years

1880
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:01,400
back they didn't actually see something

1881
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:03,290
they see the effects of something on a

1882
01:22:08,350 --> 01:22:05,810
star to determine there's a planet there

1883
01:22:10,660 --> 01:22:08,360
right that's an outstanding point for

1884
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:10,670
most people they say here we found the

1885
01:22:14,380 --> 01:22:13,040
planet oh cool and then they produces

1886
01:22:16,030 --> 01:22:14,390
rendered image of a planet that's

1887
01:22:17,860 --> 01:22:16,040
obviously meant to be just a rendered

1888
01:22:20,650 --> 01:22:17,870
image and people say look there it is no

1889
01:22:23,290 --> 01:22:20,660
you're absolutely right to giving the

1890
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:23,300
idea the problem Alpha Centauri is the

1891
01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:25,250
closest star system to us there's three

1892
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:27,350
stars in that star system we found the

1893
01:22:32,440 --> 01:22:29,120
planet around one of those stars all

1894
01:22:34,150 --> 01:22:32,450
right now Alpha Centauri is one of the

1895
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:34,160
components is is just a little bit

1896
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bigger than the Sun now if I were to

1897
01:22:41,950 --> 01:22:39,110
hold a quarter coin the quarter coin out

1898
01:22:44,260 --> 01:22:41,960
as far away from the cameras I had to go

1899
01:22:47,170 --> 01:22:44,270
so that the size of the diameter of that

1900
01:22:49,450 --> 01:22:47,180
coin would be the same diameter as the

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01:22:53,290 --> 01:22:49,460
star I'd have to move that coin away

1902
01:22:55,870 --> 01:22:53,300
from the camera 750 miles further to be

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01:22:58,090 --> 01:22:55,880
the same diameter as the star and the

1904
01:23:01,720 --> 01:22:58,100
planet is a hundred times smaller than

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01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:01,730
that so we can't yet see the disks of

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01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:04,880
stars as big as they are only a few and

1907
01:23:10,330 --> 01:23:08,090
only through a very special process that

1908
01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:10,340
we use in order to remove the effects of

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01:23:17,290 --> 01:23:14,060
atmosphere and the effects of turbulence

1910
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:17,300
in the interstellar medium okay so that

1911
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:19,250
gives you an idea of how difficult it is

1912
01:23:23,980 --> 01:23:20,930
to see planets so when you say we see an

1913
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:23,990
effect you're right we see the change

1914
01:23:30,340 --> 01:23:27,410
miniscule micro change in the light

1915
01:23:31,930 --> 01:23:30,350
coming from the star because the planet

1916
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:31,940
may be crossing in front of it and

1917
01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:34,010
that's called a transit that's just one

1918
01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:35,920
of the methods used to determine whether

1919
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:38,450
star has planets around it there are

1920
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:40,400
several methods and I actually have a

1921
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:42,110
book called the populated universe which

1922
01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:43,610
is coming out soon and it talks about

1923
01:23:47,530 --> 01:23:44,780
all this everything we've been talking

1924
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:47,540
about it details exoplanets science and

1925
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:49,010
you know in in layman's terms it

1926
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:51,530
explains how we're finding planets and

1927
01:23:57,490 --> 01:23:54,170
what it means to us and why life I

1928
01:23:59,980 --> 01:23:57,500
believe is predestined in the universe

1929
01:24:02,530 --> 01:23:59,990
because the universe is creating the

1930
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,540
building blocks of life just by itself

1931
01:24:08,170 --> 01:24:05,360
and I talk about the science of that but

1932
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:08,180
when we look at the size of planets and

1933
01:24:15,010 --> 01:24:11,710
the way we detect them it's so

1934
01:24:16,810 --> 01:24:15,020
monumentally difficult to determine and

1935
01:24:19,570 --> 01:24:16,820
make that final conclusion that that

1936
01:24:21,130 --> 01:24:19,580
little tiny dip in the change of the

1937
01:24:23,230 --> 01:24:21,140
light around that star was due to a

1938
01:24:25,420 --> 01:24:23,240
planet you have to then take one of the

1939
01:24:26,740 --> 01:24:25,430
other techniques that are used to

1940
01:24:29,410 --> 01:24:26,750
determine if there's planets around

1941
01:24:31,780 --> 01:24:29,420
other stars and then initiate a study on

1942
01:24:33,490 --> 01:24:31,790
that star with that technique and

1943
01:24:36,850 --> 01:24:33,500
there's another two or three years you

1944
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:36,860
got away or four years and then you say

1945
01:24:42,670 --> 01:24:38,930
yep that one confirms that there is a

1946
01:24:45,340 --> 01:24:42,680
similar change in the star you know

1947
01:24:48,130 --> 01:24:45,350
that's an independent change from the

1948
01:24:50,620 --> 01:24:48,140
transit dimming of the light then you

1949
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:50,630
say okay that Kennedy is now a planet

1950
01:24:54,850 --> 01:24:52,730
but now you know it's a planet but what

1951
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:54,860
kind of planet is it a Jupiter type

1952
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:56,480
planet is an earth-type planet

1953
01:24:59,470 --> 01:24:57,890
how do you know how do you know where

1954
01:25:02,260 --> 01:24:59,480
its orbit is around the star how do you

1955
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:02,270
know its size its mass whether it has an

1956
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:03,890
atmosphere or not all these things

1957
01:25:07,900 --> 01:25:05,930
believe it or not we're actually able to

1958
01:25:10,660 --> 01:25:07,910
get answers to for the most part we

1959
01:25:13,210 --> 01:25:10,670
can't determine atmospheres yet we can't

1960
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:13,220
really determine the sizes as well as we

1961
01:25:17,650 --> 01:25:15,050
want to it depends on a lot of things

1962
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:17,660
and but for the most part the

1963
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:20,000
jupiter-sized planets are easy to easier

1964
01:25:23,950 --> 01:25:21,920
to see than the small ones like earth

1965
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:23,960
earth is a very small planet and

1966
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:25,490
especially when it's a few light-years

1967
01:25:31,420 --> 01:25:27,670
away or even a thousand light years away

1968
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:31,430
so when we're looking at the the distant

1969
01:25:35,650 --> 01:25:33,770
stars it's it's monumentally difficult

1970
01:25:36,340 --> 01:25:35,660
to try and find a planet that's earth

1971
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:36,350
sized

1972
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:37,970
we can find planets that are

1973
01:25:44,170 --> 01:25:40,850
Jupiter and above because they're bigger

1974
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:44,180
so we can see their transit information

1975
01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:45,410
when they block some light of the star

1976
01:25:50,380 --> 01:25:48,560
easier than a smaller rocky planet but

1977
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:50,390
what's interesting is we can detect on

1978
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:52,130
those planets we can actually start to

1979
01:25:56,650 --> 01:25:54,170
make you get an idea of their orbits

1980
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,660
around that star and if we notice that

1981
01:26:00,640 --> 01:25:58,880
that orbit is changing a little well

1982
01:26:04,210 --> 01:26:00,650
then maybe something else is influencing

1983
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:04,220
it such as another planet not all stars

1984
01:26:10,210 --> 01:26:06,400
have planets that are passing between us

1985
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:10,220
and then ok so that means that the plane

1986
01:26:13,900 --> 01:26:12,050
of the orbit of that solar system has to

1987
01:26:16,450 --> 01:26:13,910
be edged on to us so that will actually

1988
01:26:18,670 --> 01:26:16,460
see a planet dim some of the star's

1989
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:18,680
light as it passes in front that's just

1990
01:26:23,860 --> 01:26:22,010
a statistical occurrence that favors us

1991
01:26:25,660 --> 01:26:23,870
that's nothing that you expect then that

1992
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:25,670
will be out there there at all angles

1993
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:28,880
whatsoever so a statistical sampling of

1994
01:26:34,660 --> 01:26:31,850
what we found so far shows us that just

1995
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:34,670
in our own galaxy we probably have in

1996
01:26:43,930 --> 01:26:39,110
excess of 18 to 20 billion earth-like

1997
01:26:46,690 --> 01:26:43,940
planets and that is an astonishing

1998
01:26:48,670 --> 01:26:46,700
result because it's based on science

1999
01:26:50,890 --> 01:26:48,680
it's not based on Star Trek it's not

2000
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:50,900
based on other science fiction it's

2001
01:26:56,380 --> 01:26:53,600
based on research in the exoplanet field

2002
01:26:58,660 --> 01:26:56,390
so far so as hard as it is to find

2003
01:27:01,570 --> 01:26:58,670
planets we are finding them all over the

2004
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:01,580
place and it turns out planets are more

2005
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:03,070
plentiful than stars in the universe

2006
01:27:08,740 --> 01:27:05,570
just one question before we get back to

2007
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:08,750
the UFO thing and that is here obviously

2008
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:11,330
we're looking at the impact the side

2009
01:27:16,270 --> 01:27:14,030
effects of a planet and making a lot of

2010
01:27:18,820 --> 01:27:16,280
guesses what are the chances that our

2011
01:27:22,030 --> 01:27:18,830
technique of performing this ledger

2012
01:27:24,250 --> 01:27:22,040
domain might just not be that correct

2013
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:24,260
well there's uncertainty in every single

2014
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:26,210
calculation every every single planet in

2015
01:27:30,610 --> 01:27:28,490
the exoplanet database carries with it

2016
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:30,620
some uncertainty some are better known

2017
01:27:34,780 --> 01:27:32,570
than others because there's more than

2018
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:34,790
one technique that that corroborated

2019
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:37,010
again that corroborated data is so so

2020
01:27:44,050 --> 01:27:39,770
important in science that corroborated

2021
01:27:46,060 --> 01:27:44,060
that find and it's possible that there

2022
01:27:48,820 --> 01:27:46,070
are erroneous data points as a matter of

2023
01:27:51,850 --> 01:27:48,830
fact some candidates that were about to

2024
01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:51,860
be declared planets were shown to be

2025
01:27:57,580 --> 01:27:54,590
in spots on the star we have sunspots on

2026
01:28:00,610 --> 01:27:57,590
our Sun some stars have star spots and

2027
01:28:02,620 --> 01:28:00,620
based on the amount of time it took for

2028
01:28:05,740 --> 01:28:02,630
the spot to go around it was mistaken

2029
01:28:08,170 --> 01:28:05,750
for a planet so without an actual visual

2030
01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:08,180
inspection of a solar system everything

2031
01:28:15,190 --> 01:28:11,180
is through inference and through it

2032
01:28:18,370 --> 01:28:15,200
looks like it's causing a so B must be

2033
01:28:21,850 --> 01:28:18,380
because a exists I mean it's a strange

2034
01:28:25,540 --> 01:28:21,860
convoluted path but right now in our

2035
01:28:28,990 --> 01:28:25,550
database we have 2000 confirmed plus no

2036
01:28:31,150 --> 01:28:29,000
planets that are confirmed as real

2037
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,160
exoplanets most of those are like

2038
01:28:35,770 --> 01:28:32,960
Jupiter but there is a small fraction

2039
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:35,780
it's that's more in the habitable range

2040
01:28:41,170 --> 01:28:38,050
of the star and could very potentially

2041
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:41,180
have water on their surfaces how will we

2042
01:28:45,310 --> 01:28:43,250
know again we have to corroborate the

2043
01:28:47,770 --> 01:28:45,320
data using a different technique that

2044
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:47,780
doesn't you know that's not impacted by

2045
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:50,000
the first or just yet they're a mess

2046
01:28:54,130 --> 01:28:52,130
could be rather difficult but the theory

2047
01:28:56,710 --> 01:28:54,140
being therefore if there are enough

2048
01:28:59,680 --> 01:28:56,720
planets and enough potential planets

2049
01:29:03,430 --> 01:28:59,690
with water in this so-called

2050
01:29:06,910 --> 01:29:03,440
M or Goldilocks range then therefore we

2051
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:06,920
will find life and therefore maybe some

2052
01:29:11,290 --> 01:29:09,050
of those planets have spawned

2053
01:29:13,930 --> 01:29:11,300
civilizations advanced enough to be

2054
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:13,940
space born and maybe some of those are

2055
01:29:18,670 --> 01:29:15,650
far enough in fans to have figured a way

2056
01:29:20,620 --> 01:29:18,680
to travel across the stars because

2057
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:20,630
remember we're dealing with maybe an

2058
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:22,610
intelligent race of beings hundreds or

2059
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:24,890
thousands of years ahead of us so the

2060
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:27,650
magic with which they do this is way

2061
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,930
beyond what we can envision except of

2062
01:29:36,820 --> 01:29:32,000
course in our science fiction stories

2063
01:29:39,490 --> 01:29:36,830
except what we do have a hint as to what

2064
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:39,500
they may be using because even though

2065
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:42,170
we've only existed for a tiny little

2066
01:29:46,060 --> 01:29:43,910
sliver of cosmic time relative to

2067
01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:46,070
another civilization one of the things

2068
01:29:53,020 --> 01:29:49,310
we have is we have a good understanding

2069
01:29:55,330 --> 01:29:53,030
of 4% of our universe the other 96%

2070
01:29:58,570 --> 01:29:55,340
still eludes us in terms of you know its

2071
01:30:00,100 --> 01:29:58,580
understanding in the fabric ok but 4% of

2072
01:30:02,050 --> 01:30:00,110
the mechanics of how the universe works

2073
01:30:04,959 --> 01:30:02,060
something we know and even only would

2074
01:30:07,209 --> 01:30:04,969
that 4% as we start to look past our

2075
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:07,219
current model of physics that determines

2076
01:30:11,859 --> 01:30:09,920
what we know as we look past that we see

2077
01:30:14,319 --> 01:30:11,869
hints that there might be other

2078
01:30:17,529 --> 01:30:14,329
propulsion techniques that can take us

2079
01:30:19,810 --> 01:30:17,539
quicker faster farther for instance in

2080
01:30:22,779 --> 01:30:19,820
1994 miguel al khabiri came up with a

2081
01:30:24,430 --> 01:30:22,789
concept called a warp drive let's talk

2082
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:24,440
about warp drive briefly and we'll get

2083
01:30:28,779 --> 01:30:26,960
back to UFOs after our next segment we

2084
01:30:46,299 --> 01:30:28,789
have Mark Dantonio joining Jean and

2085
01:30:47,799 --> 01:30:46,309
Chris you're in the very cast first game

2086
01:30:49,839 --> 01:30:47,809
attack of the rockets and it was a

2087
01:30:51,790 --> 01:30:49,849
critically acclaimed success and now

2088
01:30:53,919 --> 01:30:51,800
there is the coming of the protectors a

2089
01:30:56,229 --> 01:30:53,929
former military intelligence man is

2090
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:56,239
contacted by a space woman in a dream a

2091
01:31:00,430 --> 01:30:58,010
dream that turns out to be a nightmare

2092
01:31:02,469 --> 01:31:00,440
because evil forces on our distant

2093
01:31:04,810 --> 01:31:02,479
planet are planning to conquer the earth

2094
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:04,820
this is gripping science fiction of the

2095
01:31:09,339 --> 01:31:07,280
classic kind attack of the rock codes

2096
01:31:11,950 --> 01:31:09,349
and the coming of the protectors find

2097
01:31:16,060 --> 01:31:11,960
out more and Rocco is calm that's rock

2098
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oh it's our Ock oids calm so here's what

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me tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

2192
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here that you probably won't hear

2193
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anywhere else here that George Noory so

2194
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I will ask Mark Dantonio to as the

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cliche says and engage tell us about

2196
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warp drive and is it funny how so many

2197
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of these inventions from Star Trek like

2198
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the like the flip phone from Star Trek

2199
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and the tablet from Star Trek next

2200
01:35:22,540 --> 01:35:19,670
generation which looks very much like an

2201
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:22,550
iPad okay so someone came up with the

2202
01:35:26,530 --> 01:35:24,890
concept of warp drive let's get into

2203
01:35:29,710 --> 01:35:26,540
that and then Chris has some questions

2204
01:35:31,690 --> 01:35:29,720
back in the UFO realm go ahead just just

2205
01:35:34,510 --> 01:35:31,700
a quick note on that iPad comment the

2206
01:35:37,660 --> 01:35:34,520
actual creator of that small tablet that

2207
01:35:40,510 --> 01:35:37,670
his iPad size was Douglas Trumbull he

2208
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:40,520
actually created it in the movie 2001 a

2209
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:41,930
Space Odyssey that he worked on with

2210
01:35:47,860 --> 01:35:45,920
Stanley Kubrick so even farther back

2211
01:35:49,810 --> 01:35:47,870
than Star Trek well I never said that

2212
01:35:52,630 --> 01:35:49,820
was the originator but it's one where it

2213
01:35:55,150 --> 01:35:52,640
was commonly used yeah that's right and

2214
01:35:56,500 --> 01:35:55,160
and and it's like great minds all

2215
01:35:57,850 --> 01:35:56,510
thinking like right you know you figure

2216
01:36:00,720 --> 01:35:57,860
someone will bring it to life at some

2217
01:36:02,710 --> 01:36:00,730
point you're right when you talk about

2218
01:36:05,290 --> 01:36:02,720
gene Roddenberry in Star Trek

2219
01:36:07,660 --> 01:36:05,300
you know Roddenberry was no slouch he

2220
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:07,670
actually read he understood some of the

2221
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:09,890
concept work out there and in the realm

2222
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:12,650
of astronomy and so forth and so the

2223
01:36:18,670 --> 01:36:14,810
concept of warp drive was total science

2224
01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:18,680
fiction in 1968 in 66 and all those

2225
01:36:25,210 --> 01:36:22,310
times you know but since then around

2226
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:25,220
1994 I mentioned Miguel Alcubierre II

2227
01:36:30,610 --> 01:36:28,130
well he came up with a concept totally

2228
01:36:31,900 --> 01:36:30,620
science fiction that said well if we

2229
01:36:35,050 --> 01:36:31,910
could create a warp bubble around our

2230
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:35,060
ship then we could literally contract

2231
01:36:40,450 --> 01:36:36,250
the

2232
01:36:42,250 --> 01:36:40,460
space-time fabric okay love those words

2233
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:42,260
in front of us between us and our

2234
01:36:47,110 --> 01:36:44,480
destination and extend the space-time

2235
01:36:49,630 --> 01:36:47,120
fabric behind us and we're relieving

2236
01:36:52,450 --> 01:36:49,640
from and we would literally pull the

2237
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:52,460
universe past us as we sat still and it

2238
01:36:58,600 --> 01:36:54,560
sounded like a exercise of silliness

2239
01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:58,610
except for the fact that now this many

2240
01:37:04,630 --> 01:37:01,280
years later the AL khabiri warp drive

2241
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:04,640
actually has investigative research

2242
01:37:09,729 --> 01:37:06,770
going on because they actually think

2243
01:37:10,540 --> 01:37:09,739
there's merit in some way to this

2244
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:10,550
process

2245
01:37:14,740 --> 01:37:12,530
now there's caveats it seems like where

2246
01:37:16,900 --> 01:37:14,750
do you get the massive amount of energy

2247
01:37:19,060 --> 01:37:16,910
it would take to do this well we're a

2248
01:37:20,770 --> 01:37:19,070
pre type-1 society on the Kardashev

2249
01:37:22,450 --> 01:37:20,780
scale which means that we haven't even

2250
01:37:23,890 --> 01:37:22,460
figured out how to manage our planet

2251
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:23,900
never mind the solar system or other

2252
01:37:30,459 --> 01:37:28,610
stars but we can have limitless energy

2253
01:37:32,860 --> 01:37:30,469
we can go down that path I've got

2254
01:37:34,990 --> 01:37:32,870
thousands of ideas I've designed a

2255
01:37:36,850 --> 01:37:35,000
number of things that I think are

2256
01:37:38,650 --> 01:37:36,860
helpful in that arena but they still

2257
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:38,660
don't even come close to them energy as

2258
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:40,850
you say that we need because we do now

2259
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:43,130
storing that much energy it's currently

2260
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:45,110
beyond us but it's not beyond an

2261
01:37:48,910 --> 01:37:47,210
advanced civilisation we see that now in

2262
01:37:51,970 --> 01:37:48,920
this tiny sliver of our existence that

2263
01:37:53,530 --> 01:37:51,980
we will be able to manage massive

2264
01:37:55,780 --> 01:37:53,540
amounts of energy you know because we

2265
01:37:59,020 --> 01:37:55,790
are gonna have a methodology to do that

2266
01:38:00,700 --> 01:37:59,030
if you can use that kind of energy to go

2267
01:38:03,670 --> 01:38:00,710
to the nearest stars like Alpha Centauri

2268
01:38:07,209 --> 01:38:03,680
in six days which is what the on kabiri

2269
01:38:08,770 --> 01:38:07,219
drive could do you work out all the

2270
01:38:11,140 --> 01:38:08,780
issues with it like one of the little

2271
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:11,150
tiny caveats of the AL khabiri drive is

2272
01:38:15,459 --> 01:38:12,410
that when you come out of that little

2273
01:38:17,170 --> 01:38:15,469
warp bubble all that energy that you've

2274
01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:17,180
pushed ahead of yourself in order to get

2275
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:19,550
there comes back all in one shot and

2276
01:38:23,020 --> 01:38:21,170
completely obliterates not just you but

2277
01:38:25,570 --> 01:38:23,030
the whole solar system it's that much so

2278
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:25,580
yeah there's a little caveat there but

2279
01:38:32,220 --> 01:38:28,370
guess what we'll work it out on the next

2280
01:38:34,750 --> 01:38:32,230
horizon we see that if string theory is

2281
01:38:37,330 --> 01:38:34,760
valid because string theory helps us

2282
01:38:38,670 --> 01:38:37,340
peek into the other part that 96% that

2283
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:38,680
we can't see of the universe

2284
01:38:43,030 --> 01:38:41,210
string theory might offer us the ability

2285
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:43,040
to go anywhere in the galaxy in just a

2286
01:38:48,500 --> 01:38:45,770
few minutes and that sounds totally like

2287
01:38:50,180 --> 01:38:48,510
bogus science fiction or silliness

2288
01:38:54,069 --> 01:38:50,190
it's not so much science fiction anymore

2289
01:38:57,319 --> 01:38:54,079
that's something that is born out of an

2290
01:38:59,089 --> 01:38:57,329
understanding of how interdimensional

2291
01:39:01,220 --> 01:38:59,099
travel works because in our universe

2292
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:01,230
we're limited to the speed of light and

2293
01:39:06,109 --> 01:39:03,510
our universe consists of the x y and z

2294
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:06,119
and while moving through time that is

2295
01:39:11,899 --> 01:39:08,159
the dimensions that we live in in our

2296
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:11,909
universe so we get out of that and we'll

2297
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,730
be able to go sort of in-between

2298
01:39:16,700 --> 01:39:15,840
dimensions where there's no such

2299
01:39:18,379 --> 01:39:16,710
limitations

2300
01:39:20,930 --> 01:39:18,389
now the AL khabiri drive we talked about

2301
01:39:22,970 --> 01:39:20,940
earlier isn't that but it would

2302
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:22,980
apparently violate the law saying that a

2303
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,480
ship can't go faster than the speed of

2304
01:39:27,979 --> 01:39:26,639
light and to anyone watching that's just

2305
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:27,989
what it would do it would suddenly speed

2306
01:39:31,790 --> 01:39:29,760
out of the solar system in a half a

2307
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:31,800
second and people would say hey that's

2308
01:39:35,839 --> 01:39:33,510
violating the speed of light we can't do

2309
01:39:37,689 --> 01:39:35,849
that in our universe except it's not

2310
01:39:40,069 --> 01:39:37,699
because the ship itself isn't moving

2311
01:39:41,930 --> 01:39:40,079
everything else is moving past it

2312
01:39:45,319 --> 01:39:41,940
there's no law that says that the

2313
01:39:47,959 --> 01:39:45,329
space-time fabric my favorite words okay

2314
01:39:49,549 --> 01:39:47,969
can't go speeding past the ship at far

2315
01:39:52,189 --> 01:39:49,559
in excess of the speed of light there's

2316
01:39:54,649 --> 01:39:52,199
no rule that says I can't do that and I

2317
01:39:58,069 --> 01:39:54,659
think that is what so funny about it

2318
01:40:00,020 --> 01:39:58,079
because it's so non-intuitive that it

2319
01:40:01,310 --> 01:40:00,030
makes people just shake their heads and

2320
01:40:03,979 --> 01:40:01,320
then they just drop to the floor and

2321
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:03,989
ride I mean it's all they can do before

2322
01:40:07,490 --> 01:40:05,760
we drop to the floor any further for

2323
01:40:09,919 --> 01:40:07,500
those who want to hear more about UFOs

2324
01:40:12,379 --> 01:40:09,929
and before we pick ourselves up Chris

2325
01:40:15,310 --> 01:40:12,389
you had some more questions there's a

2326
01:40:19,609 --> 01:40:15,320
number of questions here mark about your

2327
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:19,619
particular favorite legitimate UFO

2328
01:40:26,089 --> 01:40:22,400
photos and your impression or

2329
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:26,099
professional opinion on the shots like

2330
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:29,210
the Trent photographs the Costa Rica

2331
01:40:33,950 --> 01:40:32,159
aerial photograph that's been featured

2332
01:40:36,649 --> 01:40:33,960
in a number of books Leslie Keens book

2333
01:40:39,950 --> 01:40:36,659
jacques valet mentioned it how do these

2334
01:40:42,620 --> 01:40:39,960
particular famous shots that are

2335
01:40:46,399 --> 01:40:42,630
considered real stack up in your

2336
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:46,409
particular estimation well you know the

2337
01:40:50,509 --> 01:40:48,090
after-the-fact shots are really tough

2338
01:40:53,029 --> 01:40:50,519
because you only have your analysis

2339
01:40:57,229 --> 01:40:53,039
tools and you only have the available

2340
01:40:59,120 --> 01:40:57,239
film footage or photo or - you never

2341
01:41:01,820 --> 01:40:59,130
usually have access to the originals of

2342
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:01,830
any of that the digital original video

2343
01:41:09,020 --> 01:41:05,970
is usually very large and to get a hold

2344
01:41:10,730 --> 01:41:09,030
of it requires an awful lot of people to

2345
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:10,740
put all these things in motion to get it

2346
01:41:15,950 --> 01:41:13,050
to you and so forth but that all said

2347
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:15,960
it's not an impossible feat we have done

2348
01:41:20,420 --> 01:41:17,850
some of those things when it comes to

2349
01:41:22,820 --> 01:41:20,430
some of the classics I have to say that

2350
01:41:24,620 --> 01:41:22,830
although they're very interesting to me

2351
01:41:26,030 --> 01:41:24,630
okay like the whole Meyer case I'm

2352
01:41:27,170 --> 01:41:26,040
firmly convinced Billy Meyer at one

2353
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:27,180
point probably saw something very

2354
01:41:33,380 --> 01:41:31,050
interesting but I think in later years I

2355
01:41:36,410 --> 01:41:33,390
guess maybe with waning interest in his

2356
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:36,420
work or whatever people you know kind of

2357
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:37,770
were turning the other way so I think

2358
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:40,050
that that he started to create things

2359
01:41:43,700 --> 01:41:41,850
like the wedding cake ship you know and

2360
01:41:45,860 --> 01:41:43,710
you know the bottom of the wedding cake

2361
01:41:47,810 --> 01:41:45,870
ship is clearly a lid from a storage

2362
01:41:49,070 --> 01:41:47,820
barrel in the shed right down to the

2363
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:49,080
having the little lifting lifting you

2364
01:41:53,330 --> 01:41:51,840
can see on it so I have a problem with

2365
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:53,340
that and I know people are gonna be

2366
01:41:59,480 --> 01:41:55,530
angry with me for that and I can't help

2367
01:42:02,600 --> 01:41:59,490
it no none of our listeners will Michael

2368
01:42:04,490 --> 01:42:02,610
horn if he happens to be tuning in well

2369
01:42:07,070 --> 01:42:04,500
you know I mean I don't fault Michael

2370
01:42:09,050 --> 01:42:07,080
for his work he's he's tried to get me

2371
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:09,060
to go on his show and talk to him a

2372
01:42:14,690 --> 01:42:11,250
number of times and I just don't have

2373
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:14,700
that kind of time you know you guys know

2374
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,890
a good group to hang with but you know I

2375
01:42:20,660 --> 01:42:18,960
don't have a whole lot of interest in

2376
01:42:22,630 --> 01:42:20,670
going on a show that's gonna then just

2377
01:42:24,410 --> 01:42:22,640
to attack me with controversial

2378
01:42:25,820 --> 01:42:24,420
commentary all the time you know this

2379
01:42:27,710 --> 01:42:25,830
this no reason for that

2380
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:27,720
I'm science guy you know I I deal with

2381
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:30,000
science and factual data and there are

2382
01:42:33,710 --> 01:42:31,530
people that don't want to do that I

2383
01:42:36,770 --> 01:42:33,720
can't help them if they don't want to

2384
01:42:38,570 --> 01:42:36,780
learn I can't help it's like I can tell

2385
01:42:39,890 --> 01:42:38,580
you not to step out of the car moving 65

2386
01:42:46,130 --> 01:42:39,900
miles an hour but if you do it anyway

2387
01:42:49,070 --> 01:42:46,140
it's not my fault this one at you Bruce

2388
01:42:52,970 --> 01:42:49,080
Maccabee who is considered one of the

2389
01:42:55,010 --> 01:42:52,980
you know most visible of all scientists

2390
01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:55,020
he's an optical physicist he's been

2391
01:42:59,300 --> 01:42:56,880
involved in the UFO realm for four

2392
01:43:02,920 --> 01:42:59,310
decades he signed off on the Gulf Breeze

2393
01:43:06,370 --> 01:43:02,930
photographs yet there are obvious

2394
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:06,380
indications that these photographs are

2395
01:43:12,410 --> 01:43:09,600
good let's put it this way most of the

2396
01:43:14,210 --> 01:43:12,420
photographs that Walters took appear to

2397
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:14,220
be reflections or some sort of fakery

2398
01:43:17,930 --> 01:43:15,570
where do you come down on the Gulf

2399
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:17,940
Breeze photographs for instance well

2400
01:43:24,620 --> 01:43:19,290
Bruce is a friend of mine and you know

2401
01:43:27,290 --> 01:43:24,630
he's a great guy and I think that one of

2402
01:43:30,230 --> 01:43:27,300
the problems that you apologists like me

2403
01:43:32,900 --> 01:43:30,240
or Bruce will have or other people look

2404
01:43:35,780 --> 01:43:32,910
at pictures is sometimes we get too

2405
01:43:38,210 --> 01:43:35,790
narrow focus and we only look at the

2406
01:43:40,820 --> 01:43:38,220
picture the object in the picture when I

2407
01:43:43,190 --> 01:43:40,830
do an analysis I actually look at that

2408
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,200
kind of I hate to say this move it as an

2409
01:43:47,450 --> 01:43:44,880
afterthought I'm checking the

2410
01:43:50,420 --> 01:43:47,460
environment I'm checking the area around

2411
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:50,430
it and I'm checking for physics effects

2412
01:43:55,220 --> 01:43:52,110
that I would expect to see for instance

2413
01:43:56,810 --> 01:43:55,230
in the Gulf Breeze photos if I see a

2414
01:43:59,090 --> 01:43:56,820
bright light I expect to see that bright

2415
01:44:00,860 --> 01:43:59,100
light reflected in the trees not just on

2416
01:44:01,460 --> 01:44:00,870
the ground we're on the hood of the

2417
01:44:04,730 --> 01:44:01,470
truck

2418
01:44:06,110 --> 01:44:04,740
exactly okay and if it's not there then

2419
01:44:08,090 --> 01:44:06,120
I would have to say okay there's

2420
01:44:11,300 --> 01:44:08,100
something wrong with this now what do I

2421
01:44:15,620 --> 01:44:11,310
think it is my thought process was that

2422
01:44:18,710 --> 01:44:15,630
from day one I felt the Gulf Breeze UFOs

2423
01:44:20,540 --> 01:44:18,720
were actually glass reflection imagery

2424
01:44:22,250 --> 01:44:20,550
done in the same way that magicians

2425
01:44:25,010 --> 01:44:22,260
performed on stage in the 1800s to

2426
01:44:27,770 --> 01:44:25,020
produce ghost effects and in order to

2427
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,780
show that I created it because I said I

2428
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:30,000
recreate things and this is way back

2429
01:44:35,300 --> 01:44:33,810
when and that works so well you know I

2430
01:44:37,700 --> 01:44:35,310
think that's when people started first

2431
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:37,710
calling me a debunker it's like no I'm

2432
01:44:41,060 --> 01:44:38,880
just showing you a scientific principle

2433
01:44:42,050 --> 01:44:41,070
that can recreate this we have to take

2434
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:42,060
that into account

2435
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:44,880
humans are clever people and many people

2436
01:44:46,820 --> 01:44:46,290
you know some people like those fool

2437
01:44:50,930 --> 01:44:46,830
others

2438
01:44:54,380 --> 01:44:50,940
now if Bruce was fooled by ed Walters

2439
01:44:56,630 --> 01:44:54,390
well that's that's also paid eighteen

2440
01:44:58,670 --> 01:44:56,640
thousand dollars to be fooled too well

2441
01:45:00,830 --> 01:44:58,680
whatever the cases may be okay but I

2442
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:00,840
don't know who was paying him okay but I

2443
01:45:05,330 --> 01:45:04,050
don't know as far as I just told you

2444
01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:05,340
with the golf reason I walked away from

2445
01:45:10,610 --> 01:45:08,190
because to me it was a non non issue it

2446
01:45:12,700 --> 01:45:10,620
was a non-starter for me let's do this

2447
01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:12,710
otherwise the show will be a non-starter

2448
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:15,360
Mark Dantonio joining gene and Chris

2449
01:45:26,010 --> 01:45:18,080
you're in the para guest

2450
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:28,270
independently leading the way for the

2451
01:45:35,459 --> 01:45:31,130
nation compelling talk for every

2452
01:45:37,689 --> 01:45:35,469
political persuasion we all see and

2453
01:45:39,790 --> 01:45:37,699
imagine looking in the mirror and to

2454
01:45:42,129 --> 01:45:39,800
your surprise you look 10 years younger

2455
01:45:43,959 --> 01:45:42,139
how would it make you feel looking

2456
01:45:46,359 --> 01:45:43,969
younger can be your reality without

2457
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breakthrough anti-aging formula that's

2458
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2459
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2460
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2461
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2462
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four four five hundred zero eight one

2463
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five or visit imagine looking younger

2464
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calm we the people grow cotton the wheat

2465
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fabric engraving can beds strips and

2466
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fibers to protect from counterfeit and

2467
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carding to a private bank having it led

2468
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back at interest

2469
01:46:16,750 --> 01:46:15,079
forcing taxes to service debt this

2470
01:46:18,370 --> 01:46:16,760
capitalism what was Jefferson correct

2471
01:46:20,020 --> 01:46:18,380
when stating a central bank issuing the

2472
01:46:21,129 --> 01:46:20,030
public currency is a greater menace to

2473
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:21,139
the liberties of the people than a

2474
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standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

2475
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placing a free silver dollar in a book

2476
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that explains our monetary system call

2477
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for your copy of eight hundred six eight

2478
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six two two three seven it's time to

2479
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understand the system call 866 two two

2480
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three seven that's eight hundred six

2481
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2482
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2483
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[Music]

2508
01:47:51,340 --> 01:47:47,000
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2509
01:48:00,290 --> 01:47:51,350
standard of paranormal radio and now

2510
01:48:01,940 --> 01:48:00,300
here's Jane Steinberg with Jean and with

2511
01:48:04,970 --> 01:48:01,950
Chris in the para cast we've been

2512
01:48:07,940 --> 01:48:04,980
covering UFO photos videos and

2513
01:48:10,670 --> 01:48:07,950
triangulation set up so that we could

2514
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:10,680
really get a full picture of a UFO and

2515
01:48:13,820 --> 01:48:11,970
get something that's really meaningful

2516
01:48:17,030 --> 01:48:13,830
rather than just something in the sky

2517
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:17,040
about the possibility of planets out

2518
01:48:23,420 --> 01:48:19,850
there that might be inhabited and thus

2519
01:48:25,490 --> 01:48:23,430
potentially might be visiting us which

2520
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:25,500
goes back to the core of the UFO mystery

2521
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:28,530
are we being visited by et Chris you

2522
01:48:33,979 --> 01:48:31,050
have lots more questions to ask I do

2523
01:48:36,350 --> 01:48:33,989
indeed let's get back to some of the

2524
01:48:38,030 --> 01:48:36,360
more famous photographs well here's a

2525
01:48:41,060 --> 01:48:38,040
question actually let's go let's take it

2526
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:41,070
from the other side Randall who calls

2527
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:43,170
himself ufology is one of our very

2528
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:45,330
dedicated posters at forum dr. Peric

2529
01:48:48,170 --> 01:48:46,080
ask.com

2530
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:48,180
or again you can post questions for our

2531
01:48:53,300 --> 01:48:50,610
guests and we'll ask them you wants to

2532
01:48:57,380 --> 01:48:53,310
know what your top five most infamous

2533
01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:57,390
photo fakes are and I'm not exactly sure

2534
01:49:04,460 --> 01:49:00,239
what sort of criteria used to come up

2535
01:49:06,380 --> 01:49:04,470
with yeah okay this is not a shameless

2536
01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:06,390
plug for Doug but one of my favorite

2537
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:09,360
fake UFO is at the Sky Harbor from Close

2538
01:49:13,220 --> 01:49:11,489
Encounters of the Third Kind primarily

2539
01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:13,230
because the model makers have made that

2540
01:49:17,330 --> 01:49:15,600
model put a lot of funny little things

2541
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:17,340
on it that you can actually see in the

2542
01:49:21,729 --> 01:49:18,930
close-ups of the movie as the ship is

2543
01:49:24,890 --> 01:49:21,739
going by a little mailbox a little r2d2

2544
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:24,900
really funny stuff no so and I know

2545
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:26,400
that's not the nature of his question so

2546
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:27,960
I will get to what I haven't mentioned

2547
01:49:33,050 --> 01:49:31,050
that because that to me I notice

2548
01:49:34,940 --> 01:49:33,060
everything you know and I just I

2549
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:34,950
couldn't believe that was on there and

2550
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:36,930
so that's it that's my number one

2551
01:49:43,010 --> 01:49:40,170
favorite of artificial fake movie UFOs

2552
01:49:45,979 --> 01:49:43,020
okay but in the real world so to speak

2553
01:49:47,390 --> 01:49:45,989
the real world of the unreal hoaxer one

2554
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:47,400
of the things that I thought was really

2555
01:49:52,820 --> 01:49:49,410
interesting because of its fakery

2556
01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:52,830
was the famous Tahoe drone I don't know

2557
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:54,840
if you remember the Tahoe drone it was

2558
01:49:59,090 --> 01:49:56,490
taken by this guy who saw

2559
01:50:03,050 --> 01:49:59,100
this weird thing flying over telephone

2560
01:50:04,460 --> 01:50:03,060
wires and trees on Lake Tahoe hole you

2561
01:50:08,350 --> 01:50:04,470
remember that a whole number of pictures

2562
01:50:11,930 --> 01:50:08,360
came up Linda Howe loves that case boy

2563
01:50:14,660 --> 01:50:11,940
she's been in it for years well the fact

2564
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:14,670
is when I was asked by someone this was

2565
01:50:18,710 --> 01:50:16,410
actually before I was MUFON chief photo

2566
01:50:20,630 --> 01:50:18,720
video analyst actually no I was doing

2567
01:50:22,430 --> 01:50:20,640
this all on my own you know as big an

2568
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:22,440
part of move on but I was asked to

2569
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:26,090
explore this and I looked at it and

2570
01:50:32,510 --> 01:50:29,190
having at that point this was 2008 I

2571
01:50:35,480 --> 01:50:32,520
think I had been doing CG for about

2572
01:50:38,780 --> 01:50:35,490
fiver for five or six years by that

2573
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:38,790
point and I immediately recognized what

2574
01:50:44,690 --> 01:50:42,000
I called rendering errors in the imagery

2575
01:50:46,460 --> 01:50:44,700
and again I don't look at the object per

2576
01:50:47,930 --> 01:50:46,470
se I look at the scene I look at

2577
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:47,940
everything else and one of the things I

2578
01:50:52,820 --> 01:50:50,850
noticed was for the exposure the way the

2579
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:52,830
Sun was in the sky for instance you had

2580
01:50:57,020 --> 01:50:54,570
this thing up in the sky and the Sun was

2581
01:50:58,970 --> 01:50:57,030
just off to the side you actually saw in

2582
01:51:00,290 --> 01:50:58,980
fact the brightness of the Sun invading

2583
01:51:02,750 --> 01:51:00,300
the right-hand of the frame the one

2584
01:51:05,660 --> 01:51:02,760
classic image of this thing the camera

2585
01:51:08,510 --> 01:51:05,670
for some reason still showed the blue

2586
01:51:09,650 --> 01:51:08,520
sky and all the detail on the shaded

2587
01:51:12,110 --> 01:51:09,660
side of this object

2588
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:12,120
well cameras don't work that way so that

2589
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:13,890
started everything I started going

2590
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:15,810
through this with a fine-tooth comb and

2591
01:51:20,990 --> 01:51:17,370
when I looked deep in the shadows I

2592
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:21,000
wrote back to the sky that uh Steve that

2593
01:51:25,370 --> 01:51:23,040
I had actually done this analysis for

2594
01:51:28,190 --> 01:51:25,380
and I said Steve the devil is in the

2595
01:51:29,330 --> 01:51:28,200
dark you got a look at the shadows when

2596
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:29,340
you look at the shadows you see these

2597
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:32,400
really fine little donut ring shapes and

2598
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:35,250
I said that's a sampling error caused by

2599
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,890
a renderer using something one of the

2600
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:39,840
many techniques but one called radiosity

2601
01:51:43,370 --> 01:51:41,520
now we call it a global illumination

2602
01:51:46,190 --> 01:51:43,380
it's part of the global global

2603
01:51:48,830 --> 01:51:46,200
illumination which is the way you make

2604
01:51:51,260 --> 01:51:48,840
something in a fake image look real it

2605
01:51:53,870 --> 01:51:51,270
takes into account bouncing photons and

2606
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:53,880
tries to make the image look more real

2607
01:51:57,650 --> 01:51:56,130
you get subtle reflected light on the

2608
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:57,660
bottom of something that's in shadow for

2609
01:52:01,430 --> 01:51:59,040
instance and then it makes it look more

2610
01:52:03,740 --> 01:52:01,440
real but if you choose to do that

2611
01:52:05,930 --> 01:52:03,750
without saying that you want to look at

2612
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:05,940
a lot of light rays instead of just a

2613
01:52:09,620 --> 01:52:07,770
few if you say you're gonna just use a

2614
01:52:09,939 --> 01:52:09,630
few then you get little artifacts these

2615
01:52:11,860 --> 01:52:09,949
little

2616
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:11,870
doughnuts and their overlapping

2617
01:52:16,930 --> 01:52:14,090
doughnuts they show that the that the

2618
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:16,940
renderer was that that's used in the

2619
01:52:21,220 --> 01:52:18,530
software the thing that makes this image

2620
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:21,230
ashley was making mistakes and you can

2621
01:52:25,209 --> 01:52:23,090
pick up on those and when I saw those I

2622
01:52:25,689 --> 01:52:25,219
realized okay it's as I thought it's a

2623
01:52:28,180 --> 01:52:25,699
fake

2624
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:28,190
it was missing other telltale signs of

2625
01:52:34,300 --> 01:52:32,480
reality it was missing proper lit that

2626
01:52:36,189 --> 01:52:34,310
you would expect from the Sun all the

2627
01:52:39,130 --> 01:52:36,199
things that you would get from a camera

2628
01:52:41,410 --> 01:52:39,140
you didn't get in this object the object

2629
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:41,420
was out of place it was a composited

2630
01:52:46,150 --> 01:52:43,250
object thrown into a regular photograph

2631
01:52:48,490 --> 01:52:46,160
and so when they made that announcement

2632
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:48,500
to this guy he brought it to the MUFON

2633
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:51,050
heads and then they said we'll get him

2634
01:52:55,140 --> 01:52:52,370
out here to the conference let him do a

2635
01:52:57,820 --> 01:52:55,150
talk on this so I did a talk on that and

2636
01:52:59,709 --> 01:52:57,830
shortly thereafter they said do you want

2637
01:53:01,750 --> 01:52:59,719
to be the chief or video analyst and I

2638
01:53:03,790 --> 01:53:01,760
said well sure I mean I've been doing

2639
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:03,800
this for years with MUFON any way kind

2640
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:06,050
of on my own and then finally they they

2641
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:07,730
said let's do it so that's how that

2642
01:53:12,340 --> 01:53:09,770
started so that was that was one of my

2643
01:53:14,290 --> 01:53:12,350
favorites because that's the one that's

2644
01:53:17,229 --> 01:53:14,300
the second favorite because of the fact

2645
01:53:19,060 --> 01:53:17,239
that that was a very uh little word it

2646
01:53:21,340 --> 01:53:19,070
was a regimented manner in which I went

2647
01:53:22,810 --> 01:53:21,350
through it was a full methodology I used

2648
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:22,820
to go and decipher that piece by piece

2649
01:53:28,510 --> 01:53:25,010
by piece I recreated it and then in my

2650
01:53:30,430 --> 01:53:28,520
talk I actually built that UFO live in

2651
01:53:32,229 --> 01:53:30,440
front of everybody and then made that

2652
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:32,239
image for them right in front of them as

2653
01:53:38,860 --> 01:53:35,090
the talk again recreating that's very

2654
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:38,870
very important so next I think there was

2655
01:53:43,930 --> 01:53:41,570
a pair of UFOs that were a zip across

2656
01:53:45,580 --> 01:53:43,940
above palm trees and they were zipping

2657
01:53:47,010 --> 01:53:45,590
through the scene and they go right over

2658
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:47,020
your head you hear this you know noise

2659
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:49,370
how's it go by and they need disappear

2660
01:53:53,140 --> 01:53:51,290
into the sky it look beautiful do you

2661
01:53:55,630 --> 01:53:53,150
remember that patient the Haitian is the

2662
01:53:58,419 --> 01:53:55,640
Haitian one yeah yeah now I looked at

2663
01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:58,429
that and I started laughing immediately

2664
01:54:04,150 --> 01:54:01,280
because I recognized the palm trees I

2665
01:54:08,020 --> 01:54:04,160
had those palm trees it was part of the

2666
01:54:10,930 --> 01:54:08,030
view bue package for doing rendering and

2667
01:54:12,490 --> 01:54:10,940
animation and I was like look they're

2668
01:54:14,169 --> 01:54:12,500
all the same palm trees this one's

2669
01:54:15,790 --> 01:54:14,179
rotated that one's a little bit rotated

2670
01:54:17,620 --> 01:54:15,800
but look here are total duplicates

2671
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:17,630
side-by-side the leaves hang in exactly

2672
01:54:21,790 --> 01:54:19,250
the same way so when I figured that out

2673
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:21,800
I realized that somebody used view and I

2674
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:23,090
was very impressed with

2675
01:54:27,940 --> 01:54:25,970
they used view and I was also just a

2676
01:54:30,190 --> 01:54:27,950
little bit worried because I was like

2677
01:54:33,550 --> 01:54:30,200
wow a lot of people are gonna think this

2678
01:54:36,370 --> 01:54:33,560
is real and I don't believe it is okay

2679
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:36,380
so the next one after that going more

2680
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:39,920
recently there was a famous image in the

2681
01:54:43,660 --> 01:54:42,320
sky that really happened just like you

2682
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:43,670
saw it it was called the Norway spiral

2683
01:54:49,690 --> 01:54:46,490
you remember that one oh yeah the Norway

2684
01:54:53,290 --> 01:54:49,700
spiral was a stunning white pinwheel in

2685
01:54:56,940 --> 01:54:53,300
the sky it had a brilliant bluish green

2686
01:54:59,770 --> 01:54:56,950
light behind it and I looked at that and

2687
01:55:03,760 --> 01:54:59,780
I was sent this minutes after it

2688
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:03,770
happened okay it was really really early

2689
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:06,110
in the morning here I just happened to

2690
01:55:10,660 --> 01:55:08,960
be up and they get this this call I have

2691
01:55:13,420 --> 01:55:10,670
to send you this video you got to see it

2692
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:13,430
now we look at it yes sure so I look at

2693
01:55:18,010 --> 01:55:15,890
the video and I'm watching this gigantic

2694
01:55:20,500 --> 01:55:18,020
beautiful pinwheel and my first thought

2695
01:55:22,510 --> 01:55:20,510
was I know that's not fake I know that's

2696
01:55:24,940 --> 01:55:22,520
really there and I happen to know

2697
01:55:28,060 --> 01:55:24,950
exactly what that is I've seen it before

2698
01:55:30,190 --> 01:55:28,070
I called back or sorry I wrote back in

2699
01:55:33,610 --> 01:55:30,200
the email to these people and I said

2700
01:55:37,150 --> 01:55:33,620
okay brace yourselves this is a failed

2701
01:55:40,030 --> 01:55:37,160
rocket launch in progress I go you're

2702
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:40,040
watching the leaking of fuel and that

2703
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:42,650
round spiral is caused by the spinning

2704
01:55:48,190 --> 01:55:46,400
rocket body being thrown out of balanced

2705
01:55:51,490 --> 01:55:48,200
forces it's actually spinning because

2706
01:55:54,070 --> 01:55:51,500
the rocket is leaking fuel I said that

2707
01:55:55,630 --> 01:55:54,080
blueish green is the dead giveaway that

2708
01:55:57,850 --> 01:55:55,640
occurs 90 miles up in the atmosphere

2709
01:56:00,610 --> 01:55:57,860
it's called an Aurora and it's being

2710
01:56:04,630 --> 01:56:00,620
caused by the rocket punching through

2711
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:04,640
the stratosphere and they went silent

2712
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:08,570
and the next day I'm being maligned left

2713
01:56:11,740 --> 01:56:10,370
and right about people and they said

2714
01:56:13,690 --> 01:56:11,750
well remember that black thing at the

2715
01:56:15,700 --> 01:56:13,700
end that's the Stargate opening up and

2716
01:56:18,730 --> 01:56:15,710
my response was no that's what happens

2717
01:56:20,980 --> 01:56:18,740
in space when something's destroyed you

2718
01:56:22,930 --> 01:56:20,990
don't get fireballs in space it's just

2719
01:56:25,540 --> 01:56:22,940
an expanding debris cloud under force

2720
01:56:27,550 --> 01:56:25,550
and that is what you see there you're

2721
01:56:29,770 --> 01:56:27,560
watching the rocket body being destroyed

2722
01:56:31,660 --> 01:56:29,780
by the whoever launched it and they

2723
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:31,670
ripped me apart called me all kinds of

2724
01:56:35,500 --> 01:56:33,770
names I just smiled two days later the

2725
01:56:36,900 --> 01:56:35,510
Russians owned up to exactly that it was

2726
01:56:39,210 --> 01:56:36,910
a gimbal failure on their rock

2727
01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:39,220
they had an oxygen tank that leaked BAM

2728
01:56:44,610 --> 01:56:42,190
the head of the self-destruct you know I

2729
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:44,620
just heard crickets nobody got back to

2730
01:56:49,050 --> 01:56:46,530
me I don't get it

2731
01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:49,060
so that was a favorite because it was

2732
01:56:56,150 --> 01:56:51,910
just just gorgeous it was a beautiful

2733
01:56:58,860 --> 01:56:56,160
beautiful effect the other one that was

2734
01:57:00,240 --> 01:56:58,870
that was interesting to me because of

2735
01:57:02,910 --> 01:57:00,250
the way the investigation took place

2736
01:57:06,540 --> 01:57:02,920
this is the last one was the Jerusalem

2737
01:57:09,090 --> 01:57:06,550
UFO where the UFO remember that one okay

2738
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:09,100
let's talk about the Jerusalem UFO in

2739
01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:11,290
our next segment with Mark Dantonio he's

2740
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:15,280
the chief photo analyst guy person for

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2770
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2771
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inflation this Federal Reserve fiat

2772
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2773
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2774
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2795
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2797
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2798
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2800
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2801
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2802
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2805
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:42,380
work harder for you then you should

2806
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:44,810
consider joining Phil's gang calm were

2807
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:46,850
thousands of individual investors have

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the business for a long time and you're

2809
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really one of the best I've never heard

2810
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2811
02:01:05,979 --> 02:01:05,360
what a great teacher are for over a

2812
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:05,989
decade

2813
02:01:10,330 --> 02:01:08,210
Phil's gang calms Phil grandi and Donald

2814
02:01:12,430 --> 02:01:10,340
Cogswell have been teaching coaching and

2815
02:01:15,129 --> 02:01:12,440
investing right along with all Phil's

2816
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:15,139
gang members Donnie for market wrap I

2817
02:01:20,770 --> 02:01:16,850
bought twenty five hundred shares of Au

2818
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I can fold it this 2806 twenty dollar

2819
02:01:25,180 --> 02:01:22,610
profit why not join thousands of

2820
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satisfied Phil's gang customers today go

2821
02:01:30,340 --> 02:01:27,920
to Phil's gang calm Bill's gang calm or

2822
02:01:32,110 --> 02:01:30,350
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2823
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:32,120
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2824
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:34,690
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2826
02:01:42,340 --> 02:01:40,340
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2827
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:42,350
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2829
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2830
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2831
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2832
02:02:03,760 --> 02:01:59,630
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2833
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:03,770
analyst guy person from earth if the

2834
02:02:09,310 --> 02:02:07,370
king of the universe of analysts it's

2835
02:02:10,750 --> 02:02:09,320
gonna be a very big business card it's

2836
02:02:12,939 --> 02:02:10,760
gonna be a billboard before it's done

2837
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:12,949
you know well that way you pay more

2838
02:02:16,540 --> 02:02:14,810
fruit and I get a commission there you

2839
02:02:23,649 --> 02:02:16,550
go you see I could make a deal with a

2840
02:02:25,990 --> 02:02:23,659
printer marketing managed I wish those

2841
02:02:27,790 --> 02:02:26,000
UFOs that I thought were interesting as

2842
02:02:29,669 --> 02:02:27,800
favorites of mine this next one is the

2843
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:29,679
Jerusalem UFO if you recall there was a

2844
02:02:35,020 --> 02:02:32,570
UFO sighting that started to make some

2845
02:02:37,510 --> 02:02:35,030
headlines because an apparent group

2846
02:02:39,580 --> 02:02:37,520
quote-unquote of people saw this light

2847
02:02:43,090 --> 02:02:39,590
come down park itself over the Dome of

2848
02:02:45,310 --> 02:02:43,100
the rock in old Jerusalem and then it

2849
02:02:50,140 --> 02:02:45,320
flashed and Jews took off into the sky

2850
02:02:52,209 --> 02:02:50,150
was gorgeous now it was filmed by torso

2851
02:02:54,399 --> 02:02:52,219
over three different people and then

2852
02:02:57,129 --> 02:02:54,409
submitted separately as three separate

2853
02:02:58,689 --> 02:02:57,139
filming's are the same object of course

2854
02:03:00,790 --> 02:02:58,699
I got the call that did the analysis

2855
02:03:02,740 --> 02:03:00,800
because you know we do this for

2856
02:03:05,470 --> 02:03:02,750
worldwide not just the United States and

2857
02:03:07,629 --> 02:03:05,480
when I looked at the UFO footage I

2858
02:03:08,979 --> 02:03:07,639
noticed something disturbing first of

2859
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:08,989
all I look at everything to try like I

2860
02:03:12,190 --> 02:03:11,090
said I have to look at I have to be hard

2861
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:12,200
on the data or on

2862
02:03:17,260 --> 02:03:14,450
doing every one of this service right I

2863
02:03:19,300 --> 02:03:17,270
can't say that's real when if I don't

2864
02:03:22,150 --> 02:03:19,310
think it is and looking at this what

2865
02:03:24,070 --> 02:03:22,160
disturbed me was the first video shows a

2866
02:03:26,590 --> 02:03:24,080
particular behavior of this little UFO

2867
02:03:28,630 --> 02:03:26,600
the second video shows a different

2868
02:03:31,900 --> 02:03:28,640
behavior that was supposedly occurring

2869
02:03:35,050 --> 02:03:31,910
at the same time and that made me think

2870
02:03:37,030 --> 02:03:35,060
that this was two at least two different

2871
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:37,040
events and when it confirmed that it was

2872
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:38,690
really supposed to be the same event and

2873
02:03:44,260 --> 02:03:41,450
they were absolutely adamant that is the

2874
02:03:46,450 --> 02:03:44,270
same event that's when I realized okay

2875
02:03:49,270 --> 02:03:46,460
these guys are probably pulling the wool

2876
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:49,280
over our eyes I'm cautious I'm

2877
02:03:54,550 --> 02:03:51,770
suspicious now I have to prove it

2878
02:03:57,220 --> 02:03:54,560
so I said about looking at a variety of

2879
02:03:58,630 --> 02:03:57,230
different factors and one of those took

2880
02:04:01,480 --> 02:03:58,640
me completely outside of photo and video

2881
02:04:03,820 --> 02:04:01,490
analysis I went to social media it was

2882
02:04:04,660 --> 02:04:03,830
taken by young people and you know early

2883
02:04:07,060 --> 02:04:04,670
in the morning one in the morning

2884
02:04:09,220 --> 02:04:07,070
whatever was in old Jerusalem up on the

2885
02:04:10,780 --> 02:04:09,230
mountain and the hill social media

2886
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:10,790
should have been buzzing about this

2887
02:04:14,620 --> 02:04:12,770
there should have been hundreds and

2888
02:04:17,020 --> 02:04:14,630
hundreds of people you could hear people

2889
02:04:18,970 --> 02:04:17,030
in the background know where were they

2890
02:04:21,490 --> 02:04:18,980
where were their Facebook posts where

2891
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:21,500
were their tweets none of it ever showed

2892
02:04:25,930 --> 02:04:24,110
up so that's suspicious to me so you

2893
02:04:28,060 --> 02:04:25,940
gotta take the whole picture into

2894
02:04:30,010 --> 02:04:28,070
consideration where were the reports to

2895
02:04:33,070 --> 02:04:30,020
the authorities Israeli authorities

2896
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:33,080
didn't have any reports in fact where

2897
02:04:37,060 --> 02:04:34,250
are the reports of other young people

2898
02:04:38,740 --> 02:04:37,070
down in the city who saw all this bright

2899
02:04:41,380 --> 02:04:38,750
flash of light and saw this thing go up

2900
02:04:44,020 --> 02:04:41,390
in the sky none no one not a single one

2901
02:04:46,030 --> 02:04:44,030
so that's when I realized okay when you

2902
02:04:48,220 --> 02:04:46,040
have a full city basically if it never

2903
02:04:50,830 --> 02:04:48,230
sleeps of young people out and about

2904
02:04:53,670 --> 02:04:50,840
having fun and two of them take a

2905
02:04:56,530 --> 02:04:53,680
picture a video rather of the scene and

2906
02:04:58,660 --> 02:04:56,540
they're the only two that report it that

2907
02:05:00,400 --> 02:04:58,670
is suspicious that is very suspicious

2908
02:05:04,180 --> 02:05:00,410
and in this day and age of social media

2909
02:05:06,940 --> 02:05:04,190
even more suspicious so I said I believe

2910
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:06,950
this to be a hoax because one important

2911
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:09,410
thing and that is that the UFO and video

2912
02:05:13,620 --> 02:05:11,570
one does not act the same as you as you

2913
02:05:16,060 --> 02:05:13,630
a phone video - and number two because

2914
02:05:17,830 --> 02:05:16,070
literally there's no other reports of it

2915
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:17,840
this is supposed to be something over

2916
02:05:23,310 --> 02:05:20,210
one of the most important locations on

2917
02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:23,320
earth and to people reporting

2918
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:25,599
so as you know from that resulting

2919
02:05:29,819 --> 02:05:28,239
investigation and Israeli journalists

2920
02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:29,829
got a hold of the story instead of

2921
02:05:33,540 --> 02:05:32,110
running with it and and started to

2922
02:05:36,030 --> 02:05:33,550
figure it out and it turns out that

2923
02:05:38,970 --> 02:05:36,040
those two students who took that photo

2924
02:05:42,750 --> 02:05:38,980
that video each separate video we're

2925
02:05:44,939 --> 02:05:42,760
part of the same class a film class and

2926
02:05:48,359 --> 02:05:44,949
it looked like this was probably meant

2927
02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:48,369
to be some type of a viral video test or

2928
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:49,510
some kind of thing they're trying to do

2929
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in the viral media market

2930
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no so plus plus the background appeared

2931
02:05:58,109 --> 02:05:56,500
to be static as well I saw that analysis

2932
02:06:00,870 --> 02:05:58,119
too about the background being static

2933
02:06:02,910 --> 02:06:00,880
and and I did differ on that I was able

2934
02:06:05,300 --> 02:06:02,920
to determine in my view that it was

2935
02:06:06,930 --> 02:06:05,310
actually it was actually a moving

2936
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:06,940
background because you could actually

2937
02:06:12,270 --> 02:06:10,090
see changes occurring in the background

2938
02:06:16,140 --> 02:06:12,280
and I don't remember where but there was

2939
02:06:18,689 --> 02:06:16,150
something about lights being occluded

2940
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:18,699
you know by a tree or something that I

2941
02:06:22,740 --> 02:06:21,070
could see that was another something but

2942
02:06:24,930 --> 02:06:22,750
it doesn't matter the bottom line was

2943
02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:24,940
that they were found out to have been

2944
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:27,070
trying to generate a viral no scheme

2945
02:06:30,839 --> 02:06:29,050
scheme of some kind which whatever you

2946
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:30,849
know people will do it yep pretty

2947
02:06:37,470 --> 02:06:33,130
impressive for film students since we're

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02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:37,480
on the subject of hoaxed footage burnt

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02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:40,000
State one of our top posters at forum

2950
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:43,599
dr. Peric ask.com like myself has heard

2951
02:06:50,850 --> 02:06:46,810
rumors over the years of Stanley Kubrick

2952
02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:50,860
in exchange for you know some new camera

2953
02:07:00,209 --> 02:06:55,210
lens was from NASA was tasked with the

2954
02:07:02,669 --> 02:07:00,219
job of faking the original Apollo moon

2955
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:02,679
landing footage oh yeah and this has

2956
02:07:05,430 --> 02:07:03,760
been something that's been kicking

2957
02:07:06,660 --> 02:07:05,440
around for years now as Douglass Trump

2958
02:07:11,250 --> 02:07:06,670
what does douglas trumbull think about

2959
02:07:13,319 --> 02:07:11,260
that hoax I can tell you actually I talk

2960
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:13,329
to him all the time and I just dealt

2961
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:16,810
with a whole lunar landing conspiracy

2962
02:07:20,879 --> 02:07:18,730
thing you know when people were saying

2963
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:20,889
look here's a UFO on the moon no I'm

2964
02:07:25,140 --> 02:07:22,810
sorry in fact that just did the aliens

2965
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:25,150
on the moon documentary with that was

2966
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:28,480
about caveats show and that you're

2967
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:29,530
showing me pictures that they thought

2968
02:07:32,970 --> 02:07:31,170
might be artificial structures and I was

2969
02:07:35,700 --> 02:07:32,980
telling them from my scientific

2970
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:35,710
background that well let me explain how

2971
02:07:38,729 --> 02:07:37,119
that can actually occur

2972
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all right before you say it's an alien

2973
02:07:42,869 --> 02:07:40,479
thing there's another way that could

2974
02:07:44,699 --> 02:07:42,879
happen and I was trying to explain that

2975
02:07:47,159 --> 02:07:44,709
even when you know that's not gonna make

2976
02:07:50,399 --> 02:07:47,169
the show after that that's that's true

2977
02:07:52,259 --> 02:07:50,409
but still I see what I could say and

2978
02:07:55,020 --> 02:07:52,269
then it wasn't I didn't realize the show

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was gonna be that far down that path I

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was told that I would be a kind of a

2981
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voice of reason and that's okay because

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02:08:01,619 --> 02:08:00,459
that's usually what I try to do is just

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temporary

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02:08:06,060 --> 02:08:02,919
you know the reality that we do

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02:08:07,649 --> 02:08:06,070
understand but I had created and I

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actually take this around the country

2987
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:10,239
it's a demonstrator that actually shows

2988
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the lunar surface it's real lunar not

2989
02:08:16,589 --> 02:08:14,499
real lunar soil but it's a simulated

2990
02:08:18,479 --> 02:08:16,599
lunar soil that I've concocted that acts

2991
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the same way does the same has the same

2992
02:08:22,799 --> 02:08:20,649
kind of properties and we can create

2993
02:08:25,169 --> 02:08:22,809
meteor meteor craters with them we can

2994
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create ridges and valleys and and show

2995
02:08:29,850 --> 02:08:27,729
well it's a glass walled box but light

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02:08:31,379 --> 02:08:29,860
on it in certain ways at low angles you

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02:08:33,239 --> 02:08:31,389
can actually recreate the quote-unquote

2998
02:08:35,429 --> 02:08:33,249
tricks of like the shadow because again

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I'm a recreation guy I'm not a just a

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spout it and sit down guy you know so I

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put my money where my mouth is and I

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make sure that I demonstrate these

3003
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things and the concept of the moon

3004
02:08:49,020 --> 02:08:46,479
landing to me was always interesting

3005
02:08:51,359 --> 02:08:49,030
because in every one of the arguments

3006
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that they've put forth the one that says

3007
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look the shadows are going different

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directions which proves that the the the

3009
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rezaian spotlights on the stage look the

3010
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flag is waving which proves that there

3011
02:09:07,889 --> 02:09:04,659
was air all of those concepts fall apart

3012
02:09:10,350 --> 02:09:07,899
when you examine the science behind this

3013
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the setting what about the radiation and

3014
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the Hasselblad unprotected Hasselblad

3015
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cameras well why wasn't the film all fog

3016
02:09:19,549 --> 02:09:17,199
well that's a whole nother issue okay

3017
02:09:23,549 --> 02:09:19,559
that the five camera shoe is one that

3018
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you know when we look at x-rays and if

3019
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you recall it was in the old days we

3020
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would pass our film cans through the

3021
02:09:34,290 --> 02:09:31,780
airport and they would get fog okay well

3022
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the NASA folks knew about fogging they

3023
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had done tests to see what would happen

3024
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to the film cans and so they tried to

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preclude that by putting the cameras and

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housings that would conclude that keep

3027
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in mind that the same radiation that

3028
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would fog film would kill astronauts so

3029
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:50,439
how come the astronauts aren't dead how

3030
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:50,770
come

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they came back didn't die of cancer or

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maybe they didn't these are substitutes

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like Paul is dead

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we have his doppelganger we do not have

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doppelgangers on this show we have

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marked Antonio I don't think the

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doppelganger not a higher percent sure

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Chris gene some people say I died a

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hundred years ago like the guy in

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forever that keeps dying that new TV

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show and he comes back naked in water I

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don't do that with gene and Chris you're

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[Music]

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so we're not talking about the TV show

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forever because nobody can pronounce the

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name of the star it's by the way yoin

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Griffith although it's spelled in Welsh

3152
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that's why it sounds like something else

3153
02:15:06,860 --> 02:15:03,340
we haven't said somebody whose name is

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more easy to pronounce Mark Dantonio and

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with Gene and Chris it's easy for me I

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had to read it you know I didn't know

3157
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:15,040
because it looks like gruff old or

3158
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something like that there's no way to

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actually pronounce the guy's name right

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but he's got a great British accent so

3161
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you don't care about what he says I have

3162
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no idea what we're talking about it does

3163
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turn out though if we're gonna summarize

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this because we only have a couple of

3165
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segments left that there's a fair amount

3166
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of efforts to fake a UFO but one of the

3167
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most common techniques is just to take

3168
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any old light in the sky and say see

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that's the UFO and post it on certain

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websites or YouTube channels to make

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profits for people yeah that's true

3172
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someone that was taking photos and

3173
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imagery of airplanes and because there

3174
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was no sound from the aircraft they

3175
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thought that this meant that this was a

3176
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UFO I didn't had to go through and

3177
02:16:01,770 --> 02:15:59,590
explain well there's different thermal

3178
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Cline's and the thermic lines in the air

3179
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and different temperatures cause sound

3180
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to change direction you see it all the

3181
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time you hear thunder distant thunder

3182
02:16:13,830 --> 02:16:12,250
for this reason or you don't hear

3183
02:16:16,590 --> 02:16:13,840
thunder from lightning bolt it seems

3184
02:16:18,180 --> 02:16:16,600
like it's nearby for this reason did

3185
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:18,190
people see this every day but they don't

3186
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put it into the right context when it

3187
02:16:23,970 --> 02:16:21,640
comes in it becomes an airplane suddenly

3188
02:16:25,709 --> 02:16:23,980
that's a UFO whereas you know that could

3189
02:16:28,410 --> 02:16:25,719
have been an alien Raygun beam instead

3190
02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:28,420
lightning intervene so in the in I don't

3191
02:16:33,389 --> 02:16:29,590
really believe that of course I'm using

3192
02:16:35,610 --> 02:16:33,399
as an example but I just did a case with

3193
02:16:37,709 --> 02:16:35,620
well so I do a lot of cases with The

3194
02:16:39,780 --> 02:16:37,719
Huffington Post and Lee Spiegel and and

3195
02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:39,790
I help them along with Ben Hansen and

3196
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:42,160
Ben and I work together on these stories

3197
02:16:45,660 --> 02:16:44,050
would lead to try and talk about

3198
02:16:47,729 --> 02:16:45,670
sightings and what was what's really

3199
02:16:50,660 --> 02:16:47,739
going on one of them that I did with

3200
02:16:53,940 --> 02:16:50,670
open minds recently too has to do with

3201
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:53,950
well you know our lights shone in a

3202
02:16:58,860 --> 02:16:57,130
night vision system flying overhead they

3203
02:17:01,620 --> 02:16:58,870
are not an aircraft configuration that

3204
02:17:04,559 --> 02:17:01,630
is recognizable that is to say unless

3205
02:17:07,559 --> 02:17:04,569
you know some of the very odd

3206
02:17:09,299 --> 02:17:07,569
configurations that you can expect this

3207
02:17:12,479 --> 02:17:09,309
particular configuration I recognized

3208
02:17:15,450 --> 02:17:12,489
and this when you look overhead you saw

3209
02:17:18,809 --> 02:17:15,460
the strange long linear lights up front

3210
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:18,819
and then you saw more strange bright

3211
02:17:23,639 --> 02:17:22,090
lights and then you saw wingtip lights

3212
02:17:26,219 --> 02:17:23,649
that look like they would be the strobes

3213
02:17:28,139 --> 02:17:26,229
in a aircraft but it didn't look like

3214
02:17:30,599 --> 02:17:28,149
any aircraft you'd ever seen and then

3215
02:17:32,309 --> 02:17:30,609
the kicker was its flying at night with

3216
02:17:34,500 --> 02:17:32,319
a night vision scope trained on it

3217
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:34,510
and you see the stars going in between

3218
02:17:39,269 --> 02:17:37,599
all the lights at least apparently so

3219
02:17:41,969 --> 02:17:39,279
now people are saying look it's a

3220
02:17:45,299 --> 02:17:41,979
semi-transparent giant UFO what the heck

3221
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:45,309
is this I looked at it and I said I've

3222
02:17:51,089 --> 02:17:48,130
seen this before and I can show you what

3223
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:51,099
it is I believe and I produced some

3224
02:17:55,349 --> 02:17:53,010
imagery that I've taken and I have

3225
02:17:58,349 --> 02:17:55,359
showing that really what people were

3226
02:18:01,500 --> 02:17:58,359
looking at was a aerial refueling

3227
02:18:04,019 --> 02:18:01,510
mission going on at night and the long

3228
02:18:06,450 --> 02:18:04,029
linear array of lights well that has a

3229
02:18:08,219 --> 02:18:06,460
special name okay that's a that's a

3230
02:18:09,929 --> 02:18:08,229
pilot directional system that's actually

3231
02:18:11,549 --> 02:18:09,939
used for the pilot in the back to line

3232
02:18:12,990 --> 02:18:11,559
up with it's basically the runway lights

3233
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:13,000
for the guy didn't know how far he is

3234
02:18:16,979 --> 02:18:15,130
from the boom where he is cuz you're not

3235
02:18:18,450 --> 02:18:16,989
gonna and some of those are infrared

3236
02:18:19,769 --> 02:18:18,460
sensitive so you know if you have an

3237
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:19,779
infrared sensor you'll actually see them

3238
02:18:22,679 --> 02:18:22,000
very brightly so there's some you know

3239
02:18:24,540 --> 02:18:22,689
very interesting

3240
02:18:26,690 --> 02:18:24,550
light configurations you see that people

3241
02:18:29,610 --> 02:18:26,700
may not recognize that are just you know

3242
02:18:31,290 --> 02:18:29,620
not so ordinary aircraft but aircraft

3243
02:18:33,059 --> 02:18:31,300
nonetheless you know the more and more I

3244
02:18:35,459 --> 02:18:33,069
hear this the more and more I realize

3245
02:18:38,620 --> 02:18:35,469
that actually getting a real photo of a

3246
02:18:42,250 --> 02:18:38,630
UFO is so difficult

3247
02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:42,260
and it's just possible with your fancy

3248
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:45,200
cameras in your smartphones forget about

3249
02:18:50,050 --> 02:18:47,710
the stuff that you buy the expensive

3250
02:18:53,950 --> 02:18:50,060
camcorders I mean the stuff you have in

3251
02:18:56,170 --> 02:18:53,960
the phone that you get for $199 or $99

3252
02:18:58,840 --> 02:18:56,180
with the two-year contract and get maybe

3253
02:19:05,710 --> 02:18:58,850
a dollar 99 app and you're ready to go

3254
02:19:07,541 --> 02:19:05,720
man everybody you know who looks at the

3255
02:19:09,370 --> 02:19:07,551
strange lights in the sky to say oh look

3256
02:19:10,930 --> 02:19:09,380
its aerial refueling in those forward

3257
02:19:12,910 --> 02:19:10,940
lights are the pilot director light

3258
02:19:14,860 --> 02:19:12,920
arrays I don't expect everybody to know

3259
02:19:17,170 --> 02:19:14,870
that let's see that's part of what I do

3260
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:17,180
is to try and educate and show people in

3261
02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:21,770
October from the 21st to the 24th I'm

3262
02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:23,570
actually out there from the 19th to 25th

3263
02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:25,730
in Arizona I told you I think off the

3264
02:19:32,380 --> 02:19:28,250
air I'm gonna be helping to teach a

3265
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:32,390
week-long class in a UFO related

3266
02:19:36,070 --> 02:19:34,250
information that actually show people

3267
02:19:37,690 --> 02:19:36,080
how to do photo and video analysis you

3268
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:37,700
know what do we do when we actually find

3269
02:19:41,590 --> 02:19:39,530
something what do you do if you actually

3270
02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:41,600
find trace evidence how can you pop you

3271
02:19:46,600 --> 02:19:44,570
know properly manage that seen a lot of

3272
02:19:47,650 --> 02:19:46,610
very interesting techniques are gonna be

3273
02:19:49,270 --> 02:19:47,660
taught all that week by very

3274
02:19:53,620 --> 02:19:49,280
high-powered people and scientists it's

3275
02:19:56,110 --> 02:19:53,630
gonna be a good week this is something

3276
02:20:00,761 --> 02:19:56,120
that education that is is something

3277
02:20:03,251 --> 02:20:00,771
that's really critical and my purpose is

3278
02:20:05,711 --> 02:20:03,261
not to you know go on all kinds of

3279
02:20:07,780 --> 02:20:05,721
television shows and become a Georgio

3280
02:20:10,660 --> 02:20:07,790
guy okay my purpose is to educate people

3281
02:20:12,370 --> 02:20:10,670
so the day can go and be the Georgio

3282
02:20:13,751 --> 02:20:12,380
guys in their own rights they can go do

3283
02:20:15,850 --> 02:20:13,761
their thing I want people to be

3284
02:20:17,950 --> 02:20:15,860
empowered and this is what this is about

3285
02:20:20,020 --> 02:20:17,960
publicity and this other stuff that

3286
02:20:22,570 --> 02:20:20,030
happens anyway that just happens as a

3287
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:22,580
fall out of what I'm doing is an effort

3288
02:20:26,560 --> 02:20:25,250
to do this so this is part of what we

3289
02:20:30,341 --> 02:20:26,570
have to do is to try and make people

3290
02:20:33,131 --> 02:20:30,351
aware of those exotic things that are as

3291
02:20:35,950 --> 02:20:33,141
I've said ordinary things captured in an

3292
02:20:38,501 --> 02:20:35,960
extraordinary way yeah yeah that's a

3293
02:20:41,291 --> 02:20:38,511
good point you know education there's no

3294
02:20:43,511 --> 02:20:41,301
substitute for education unfortunately

3295
02:20:45,610 --> 02:20:43,521
most people in this day and age

3296
02:20:47,580 --> 02:20:45,620
especially young people seem to get

3297
02:20:49,780 --> 02:20:47,590
their education off the internet or

3298
02:20:51,139 --> 02:20:49,790
television shows and that's probably the

3299
02:20:53,630 --> 02:20:51,149
worst place that you should go

3300
02:20:56,319 --> 02:20:53,640
to get an education especially in the

3301
02:20:59,659 --> 02:20:56,329
realm of analyzing alleged UFO data

3302
02:21:01,849 --> 02:20:59,669
whatever that might be so yeah good luck

3303
02:21:05,359 --> 02:21:01,859
on that project I wish I was in MUFON

3304
02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:05,369
I'd come down there and put my ear and I

3305
02:21:10,639 --> 02:21:08,130
would really though mark strongly

3306
02:21:12,889 --> 02:21:10,649
suggest that you visit ray Stanford down

3307
02:21:16,010 --> 02:21:12,899
in College Park his wife by the way was

3308
02:21:18,260 --> 02:21:16,020
in charge of refurbishment missions to

3309
02:21:21,979 --> 02:21:18,270
the Hubble Space Telescope at Goddard

3310
02:21:24,199 --> 02:21:21,989
ray is a very very bright guy he's he's

3311
02:21:25,519 --> 02:21:24,209
showing replication of time what

3312
02:21:28,969 --> 02:21:25,529
appeared to be time compression

3313
02:21:31,489 --> 02:21:28,979
artifacts in in photos and in film he's

3314
02:21:34,279 --> 02:21:31,499
come up with some brilliant brilliant

3315
02:21:35,569 --> 02:21:34,289
analytical work and I think that out of

3316
02:21:37,189 --> 02:21:35,579
all the people that you could go and

3317
02:21:39,620 --> 02:21:37,199
talk to you will learn more from that

3318
02:21:42,349 --> 02:21:39,630
man and probably anybody else in the

3319
02:21:45,290 --> 02:21:42,359
field and I mean that and I really would

3320
02:21:47,779 --> 02:21:45,300
like you to to follow up on this and and

3321
02:21:49,880 --> 02:21:47,789
get in contact with him because I think

3322
02:21:53,300 --> 02:21:49,890
he could learn a thing or two from you

3323
02:21:57,739 --> 02:21:53,310
as well and I think once you you two get

3324
02:21:59,779 --> 02:21:57,749
together and compare notes boy I'd love

3325
02:22:01,819 --> 02:21:59,789
to be a fly on the wall on that one well

3326
02:22:04,069 --> 02:22:01,829
maybe you will be yes that's a

3327
02:22:09,170 --> 02:22:04,079
possibility I'll be out there in

3328
02:22:12,529 --> 02:22:09,180
November so you know I we have so many

3329
02:22:14,059 --> 02:22:12,539
questions here basically I think what

3330
02:22:16,239 --> 02:22:14,069
most people want to know is is do you

3331
02:22:18,409 --> 02:22:16,249
think that there are any legitimate

3332
02:22:21,620 --> 02:22:18,419
historical photographs with film footage

3333
02:22:25,179 --> 02:22:21,630
of UFOs I mean could you give us an

3334
02:22:28,399 --> 02:22:25,189
example of some that that are genuinely

3335
02:22:31,849 --> 02:22:28,409
unknowns yeah absolutely in fact I have

3336
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:31,859
there's one that I was gonna tell you

3337
02:22:38,750 --> 02:22:33,810
before which is my mine there was a

3338
02:22:41,659 --> 02:22:38,760
there was a there was a Montana I think

3339
02:22:43,399 --> 02:22:41,669
it was a sighting over Montana and this

3340
02:22:45,889 --> 02:22:43,409
one was actually captured I believe on

3341
02:22:47,689 --> 02:22:45,899
16 millimeter film right that's a pretty

3342
02:22:51,739 --> 02:22:47,699
famous footage of the objects going

3343
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:51,749
behind a radio tower yeah now that one

3344
02:22:56,929 --> 02:22:54,479
to me has remained unsolved now could it

3345
02:22:59,899 --> 02:22:56,939
be a daytime meteor perhaps could it be

3346
02:23:04,769 --> 02:22:59,909
the f-86 Super Sabres that were rumored

3347
02:23:07,289 --> 02:23:04,779
to be in the area perhaps however the

3348
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:07,299
a time meteor issue is a tough one

3349
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:09,520
because a date-time meteor doesn't

3350
02:23:16,050 --> 02:23:13,359
necessarily act this way so when you

3351
02:23:19,889 --> 02:23:16,060
look at a daytime meteor you might

3352
02:23:22,829 --> 02:23:19,899
actually see quite a bit more you might

3353
02:23:24,719 --> 02:23:22,839
see quite a bit more of a tale or

3354
02:23:26,399 --> 02:23:24,729
something dragging behind it now there

3355
02:23:28,349 --> 02:23:26,409
in a bright sunny day it's possible you

3356
02:23:30,359 --> 02:23:28,359
might only see the bright head but

3357
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:30,369
usually seeing two objects like that

3358
02:23:36,119 --> 02:23:33,850
that usually means that the thing is

3359
02:23:38,340 --> 02:23:36,129
broken apart and that also usually means

3360
02:23:39,779 --> 02:23:38,350
that there's there's been enough of

3361
02:23:42,239 --> 02:23:39,789
exposure to the atmosphere that you're

3362
02:23:44,039 --> 02:23:42,249
now gonna get a large contrail a smoke

3363
02:23:46,409 --> 02:23:44,049
contrail kind of like the russian meteor

3364
02:23:48,449 --> 02:23:46,419
that you saw there was none of that and

3365
02:23:49,949 --> 02:23:48,459
that 16 millimeter camera certainly

3366
02:23:52,649 --> 02:23:49,959
would have seen it it wasn't too faint

3367
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:52,659
for the camera and the f-86 Super Sabres

3368
02:23:57,989 --> 02:23:54,970
were rumored to be many many miles away

3369
02:24:00,269 --> 02:23:57,999
in the different direction based on the

3370
02:24:02,519 --> 02:24:00,279
information so given the information at

3371
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:02,529
hand I had nothing else I could say

3372
02:24:09,809 --> 02:24:06,010
other than that one to me has remained

3373
02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:09,819
unsolved okay one unsolved photo let's

3374
02:24:14,159 --> 02:24:11,439
look at another case in our next segment

3375
02:24:17,020 --> 02:24:14,169
with Mark Dantonio and Jean and Chris

3376
02:24:24,390 --> 02:24:17,030
you're in the para test

3377
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3383
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3390
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02:27:48,080 --> 02:27:45,630
big fan of Alex Jones because he has the

3454
02:27:49,910 --> 02:27:48,090
courage to speak his mind more than just

3455
02:27:52,969 --> 02:27:49,920
about anyone I know

3456
02:27:56,330 --> 02:27:52,979
alex is just as bothered as I am about

3457
02:27:58,760 --> 02:27:56,340
all the advertising you hear for toxic

3458
02:28:02,090 --> 02:27:58,770
prescription drugs that make you sicker

3459
02:28:05,269 --> 02:28:02,100
not healthy I prefer to give my body all

3460
02:28:08,870 --> 02:28:05,279
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3461
02:28:11,689 --> 02:28:08,880
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3462
02:28:15,439 --> 02:28:11,699
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3463
02:28:18,740 --> 02:28:15,449
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3464
02:28:19,490 --> 02:28:18,750
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3465
02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:19,500
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3466
02:28:25,550 --> 02:28:23,250
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3467
02:28:28,399 --> 02:28:25,560
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3468
02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:28,409
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3469
02:28:33,860 --> 02:28:30,810
part of your daily regimen to get

3470
02:28:40,430 --> 02:28:33,870
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3471
02:28:46,621 --> 02:28:43,440
this is Jacques Vallee are you listening

3472
02:28:54,270 --> 02:28:46,631
to the podcast the gold standard of

3473
02:28:58,501 --> 02:28:54,280
paranormal radio are the para cast its

3474
02:29:01,171 --> 02:28:58,511
photos movies analysis and we've asked

3475
02:29:04,501 --> 02:29:01,181
Marc Dantonio our guest to heads up the

3476
02:29:07,921 --> 02:29:04,511
photo analysis for MUFON about the

3477
02:29:12,450 --> 02:29:07,931
unexplained pictures you got another one

3478
02:29:14,220 --> 02:29:12,460
for us well there was one that wasn't

3479
02:29:17,220 --> 02:29:14,230
actually a video or pictures but one

3480
02:29:21,421 --> 02:29:17,230
that occurred was someone that I never

3481
02:29:26,190 --> 02:29:21,431
ever expected to claim was a UFO or

3482
02:29:27,930 --> 02:29:26,200
horsefly UFO and it's my sister my

3483
02:29:32,131 --> 02:29:27,940
sister is not a believer in UFOs she

3484
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:32,141
never was but she was awakened one night

3485
02:29:38,371 --> 02:29:35,530
and Plainville Connecticut just a couple

3486
02:29:39,841 --> 02:29:38,381
years ago and it was around 2:00 in the

3487
02:29:42,930 --> 02:29:39,851
morning and she got out of bed and

3488
02:29:44,581 --> 02:29:42,940
noticed it was strangely quiet except

3489
02:29:46,740 --> 02:29:44,591
for this this humming noise coming from

3490
02:29:50,730 --> 02:29:46,750
outside the house she looked out the

3491
02:29:53,180 --> 02:29:50,740
window and she saw a triangular vehicle

3492
02:29:57,631 --> 02:29:53,190
a black triangular vehicle with red

3493
02:29:59,761 --> 02:29:57,641
lights that were underneath at the

3494
02:30:01,470 --> 02:29:59,771
corners and it was going over the house

3495
02:30:03,060 --> 02:30:01,480
very slowly and then just slowly went

3496
02:30:06,270 --> 02:30:03,070
across the yard and then across the

3497
02:30:07,890 --> 02:30:06,280
treetops she said it was huge and it

3498
02:30:10,381 --> 02:30:07,900
scared the living daylights out of her

3499
02:30:11,700 --> 02:30:10,391
well it was night so obviously it scared

3500
02:30:14,850 --> 02:30:11,710
the living night lights out of her let's

3501
02:30:18,121 --> 02:30:14,860
put it that way and she ended up calling

3502
02:30:20,461 --> 02:30:18,131
me and saying I I can't believe what I

3503
02:30:24,270 --> 02:30:20,471
just saw I I refuse to believe what I

3504
02:30:26,190 --> 02:30:24,280
just saw and it spooked her and this is

3505
02:30:28,440 --> 02:30:26,200
someone who didn't believe it all now

3506
02:30:30,930 --> 02:30:28,450
when we have members of our family who

3507
02:30:32,610 --> 02:30:30,940
believe like that now as an analyst all

3508
02:30:33,631 --> 02:30:32,620
I can say is well it's anecdotal maybe

3509
02:30:35,881 --> 02:30:33,641
you were dreaming maybe you were this

3510
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:35,891
maybe that and she just gets angry with

3511
02:30:40,261 --> 02:30:38,290
me no you idiot she can talk to me that

3512
02:30:42,091 --> 02:30:40,271
way you know I wasn't sleeping I was

3513
02:30:43,831 --> 02:30:42,101
wide awake because you know I couldn't

3514
02:30:46,081 --> 02:30:43,841
sleep the other thing that happened was

3515
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:46,091
there with all the power in town was out

3516
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:50,290
and sure enough or the next day a query

3517
02:30:53,069 --> 02:30:51,520
to the town

3518
02:30:55,290 --> 02:30:53,079
showed an inexplicable power loss

3519
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:55,300
throughout the town that night no one

3520
02:31:00,210 --> 02:30:57,520
knew what it was and it's on record so

3521
02:31:02,069 --> 02:31:00,220
it's like wow okay what do we call that

3522
02:31:05,370 --> 02:31:02,079
you should know now it's corroborated

3523
02:31:08,939 --> 02:31:05,380
data alright it corroborates something

3524
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:08,949
that she saw or you know at least it it

3525
02:31:12,899 --> 02:31:10,810
goes together with it but this was at

3526
02:31:14,429 --> 02:31:12,909
2:00 in the morning so you know she and

3527
02:31:16,380 --> 02:31:14,439
maybe some other people saw it but

3528
02:31:17,609 --> 02:31:16,390
they're still out there they have

3529
02:31:20,580 --> 02:31:17,619
there's people out there that haven't

3530
02:31:22,019 --> 02:31:20,590
responded so to me that's just unsolved

3531
02:31:25,500 --> 02:31:22,029
mystery you know

3532
02:31:27,179 --> 02:31:25,510
I won that I actually thought was

3533
02:31:29,700 --> 02:31:27,189
interesting to begin with but I quickly

3534
02:31:35,210 --> 02:31:29,710
dismissed as a hoax was the The Stand

3535
02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:35,220
Romanick alien in the window oh please

3536
02:31:40,319 --> 02:31:38,800
yeah well a lot of people believe that

3537
02:31:42,450 --> 02:31:40,329
but you know and when you respond you

3538
02:31:44,130 --> 02:31:42,460
don't you know your response works for

3539
02:31:45,479 --> 02:31:44,140
you and I but for the people that

3540
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:45,489
actually believe that you have to give

3541
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:46,720
them more than that right you got to

3542
02:31:50,250 --> 02:31:48,130
tell them why you don't think so so I

3543
02:31:52,740 --> 02:31:50,260
put together a whole response and

3544
02:31:54,420 --> 02:31:52,750
discussed anatomical issues and you know

3545
02:31:56,639 --> 02:31:54,430
how the height of the window to the

3546
02:31:59,969 --> 02:31:56,649
floor blah blah blah and all that well

3547
02:32:01,380 --> 02:31:59,979
then I watched the video of Stan you

3548
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:01,390
know and not to pick on it made me but

3549
02:32:05,490 --> 02:32:03,130
but when it comes to you apology

3550
02:32:08,040 --> 02:32:05,500
okay I'm not afraid to tell a hoaxer

3551
02:32:10,710 --> 02:32:08,050
he's a hoaxer and I'm unapologetic about

3552
02:32:12,929 --> 02:32:10,720
that and I saw Stan interviewing with an

3553
02:32:14,370 --> 02:32:12,939
Australian guy and I guess Stan was

3554
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:14,380
using Skype but didn't realize that the

3555
02:32:18,029 --> 02:32:15,760
Skype field-of-view for his camera

3556
02:32:20,490 --> 02:32:18,039
included just barely included his hands

3557
02:32:21,929 --> 02:32:20,500
on his screen he probably saw a cropped

3558
02:32:24,210 --> 02:32:21,939
version so he just thought it was maybe

3559
02:32:27,269 --> 02:32:24,220
his shoulders and head and they were

3560
02:32:29,309 --> 02:32:27,279
talking about paranormal events and this

3561
02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:29,319
is the para cast so this is appropriate

3562
02:32:36,090 --> 02:32:33,310
and suddenly you see this pen fly it

3563
02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:36,100
stands face and the host of the show

3564
02:32:39,689 --> 02:32:38,170
says whoa what was that

3565
02:32:42,330 --> 02:32:39,699
and Stan Sykes I don't know where that

3566
02:32:46,529 --> 02:32:42,340
came from except for the fact that you

3567
02:32:49,170 --> 02:32:46,539
saw him throw it at himself quit ok is

3568
02:32:51,090 --> 02:32:49,180
obvious and he had no clue and then a

3569
02:32:53,279 --> 02:32:51,100
few minutes later he flings a little USB

3570
02:32:55,649 --> 02:32:53,289
flashdrive at himself with his opposite

3571
02:32:57,389 --> 02:32:55,659
hand and it's like you know what this

3572
02:32:59,399 --> 02:32:57,399
reminds me kind of like the whole Meyer

3573
02:33:01,500 --> 02:32:59,409
thing you know you might have had an

3574
02:33:03,210 --> 02:33:01,510
experience in your earlier life but then

3575
02:33:04,649 --> 02:33:03,220
as the excitement wears off you like the

3576
02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:04,659
attention you got to read keep it you

3577
02:33:06,870 --> 02:33:05,200
know keep

3578
02:33:08,610 --> 02:33:06,880
going so you actually start

3579
02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:08,620
manufacturing and fabricating and then

3580
02:33:13,470 --> 02:33:11,110
that calls into question any value that

3581
02:33:15,091 --> 02:33:13,480
you may have offered with what could

3582
02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:15,101
have been a real experience and that's

3583
02:33:19,530 --> 02:33:16,720
the biggest problem you have here mark

3584
02:33:21,390 --> 02:33:19,540
which is that it may be that a number of

3585
02:33:23,250 --> 02:33:21,400
the so-called contactees over the years

3586
02:33:26,370 --> 02:33:23,260
had some kind of strange experience

3587
02:33:28,110 --> 02:33:26,380
early on but need the attention now an

3588
02:33:30,810 --> 02:33:28,120
example of this might be someone like a

3589
02:33:32,551 --> 02:33:30,820
George Adamski of the early contactees

3590
02:33:34,950 --> 02:33:32,561
we know his photos were absurd and

3591
02:33:37,740 --> 02:33:34,960
meaning the blonde Venusians in the

3592
02:33:39,631 --> 02:33:37,750
desert was also absurdity was actually

3593
02:33:41,580 --> 02:33:39,641
meeting Michael Rennie who was wearing

3594
02:33:44,551 --> 02:33:41,590
his uniform from Day the Earth Stood

3595
02:33:48,150 --> 02:33:44,561
Still but he also wrote a book where he

3596
02:33:50,011 --> 02:33:48,160
met Jesus Christ in in late 40s a

3597
02:33:52,020 --> 02:33:50,021
science fiction book so it's possible he

3598
02:33:54,540 --> 02:33:52,030
met somebody he could have interpreted

3599
02:33:56,280 --> 02:33:54,550
any way he wants and that's I guess one

3600
02:33:58,860 --> 02:33:56,290
of the big things about UFOs that we go

3601
02:34:00,210 --> 02:33:58,870
into here on the podcast quite often and

3602
02:34:01,860 --> 02:34:00,220
we only have a few minutes left so it's

3603
02:34:04,921 --> 02:34:01,870
not something you want to jump into and

3604
02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:04,931
that is the possibility that what you

3605
02:34:10,171 --> 02:34:07,690
see is not what's there you're

3606
02:34:13,051 --> 02:34:10,181
interpreting it in the way you think is

3607
02:34:14,930 --> 02:34:13,061
right right and photographing it may be

3608
02:34:19,890 --> 02:34:14,940
very difficult because it may be

3609
02:34:22,440 --> 02:34:19,900
generating stuff at areas where normal

3610
02:34:24,210 --> 02:34:22,450
cameras don't capture the image it

3611
02:34:27,421 --> 02:34:24,220
becomes an almost impossible situation

3612
02:34:29,700 --> 02:34:27,431
so we see UFOs in terms of our culture

3613
02:34:31,350 --> 02:34:29,710
through the centuries yeah and who knows

3614
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:31,360
what UFOs will look like a hundred years

3615
02:34:35,220 --> 02:34:33,370
from now if we still have a mystery well

3616
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:35,230
here's something for you I really do

3617
02:34:38,700 --> 02:34:36,730
this as quick as I can which I don't

3618
02:34:40,171 --> 02:34:38,710
know how quick that can be it has to be

3619
02:34:43,350 --> 02:34:40,181
three minutes this would be the fastest

3620
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:43,360
answering every date sir I'm sorry about

3621
02:34:47,070 --> 02:34:43,690
that

3622
02:34:48,900 --> 02:34:47,080
last year I had I had a brain surgery

3623
02:34:50,220 --> 02:34:48,910
some years ago to save my life because

3624
02:34:51,960 --> 02:34:50,230
it was something in there they had to

3625
02:34:53,551 --> 02:34:51,970
get out I don't know in the same it was

3626
02:34:55,440 --> 02:34:53,561
fine it wasn't a cancer was it some

3627
02:34:57,600 --> 02:34:55,450
little mass well anyway they take this

3628
02:35:00,480 --> 02:34:57,610
thing out and as the injury in my brain

3629
02:35:02,131 --> 02:35:00,490
matured I started to hear people talking

3630
02:35:04,410 --> 02:35:02,141
they weren't there and I figured okay

3631
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:04,420
it's just it's a latent you know latent

3632
02:35:08,400 --> 02:35:06,880
voice conversation I remember in my head

3633
02:35:09,870 --> 02:35:08,410
and my brain is playing it back to me

3634
02:35:12,030 --> 02:35:09,880
then I started seeing people that

3635
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:12,040
weren't there and semi-transparent

3636
02:35:17,950 --> 02:35:15,010
people and animals you know everything

3637
02:35:19,870 --> 02:35:17,960
running across my floor and so forth and

3638
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:19,880
I just attributed this to the maturity

3639
02:35:22,630 --> 02:35:21,410
of the injury in the brain and I kept

3640
02:35:24,820 --> 02:35:22,640
saying that and I went to a neurologist

3641
02:35:26,050 --> 02:35:24,830
I got an MRI again you know and said

3642
02:35:28,060 --> 02:35:26,060
what's going on is there anything wrong

3643
02:35:30,670 --> 02:35:28,070
no the brain is fine okay

3644
02:35:33,460 --> 02:35:30,680
so then one day I'm working on a prop

3645
02:35:35,890 --> 02:35:33,470
for our movie then as I'm sitting there

3646
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,900
I watch this doglike semi-transparent

3647
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:37,280
thing walking and this is really a

3648
02:35:42,310 --> 02:35:40,010
bridge trust me and it curls up on the

3649
02:35:43,660 --> 02:35:42,320
floor and most people you know when

3650
02:35:45,550 --> 02:35:43,670
you're tired you look out in your

3651
02:35:46,900 --> 02:35:45,560
peripheral vision you see something what

3652
02:35:49,120 --> 02:35:46,910
was that you know but it was really just

3653
02:35:50,860 --> 02:35:49,130
because you're tired right your eyes are

3654
02:35:53,980 --> 02:35:50,870
jumping around and they form these false

3655
02:35:55,450 --> 02:35:53,990
images well this was you know not the

3656
02:35:57,700 --> 02:35:55,460
case with any of these things I'm seeing

3657
02:35:59,680 --> 02:35:57,710
I'm watched indirectly wide awake in the

3658
02:36:01,210 --> 02:35:59,690
middle of the day and this dog is lying

3659
02:36:02,680 --> 02:36:01,220
there on the ground and I can't really

3660
02:36:05,020 --> 02:36:02,690
tell it's a dog but it looks like a

3661
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:05,030
Pekinese type dog because just to the

3662
02:36:10,540 --> 02:36:07,040
gate but I can't really see its features

3663
02:36:12,070 --> 02:36:10,550
it's a semi formless shape kind of like

3664
02:36:13,960 --> 02:36:12,080
it's kind of like the creatures in the

3665
02:36:16,060 --> 02:36:13,970
abyss you know the water type creatures

3666
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:16,070
but nothing like that no shine or

3667
02:36:20,200 --> 02:36:17,570
anything it's really strange to explain

3668
02:36:22,300 --> 02:36:20,210
well anyway I decide okay I've had it

3669
02:36:23,830 --> 02:36:22,310
okay I'm tired of my brain

3670
02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:23,840
you know it's generating these false

3671
02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:26,720
images I got up I walked over and I did

3672
02:36:30,400 --> 02:36:28,610
something crazy I'm looking right down

3673
02:36:31,870 --> 02:36:30,410
with this thing and now I'm getting a

3674
02:36:34,090 --> 02:36:31,880
little concerned because it's not going

3675
02:36:36,730 --> 02:36:34,100
away how could my brain recreate this

3676
02:36:37,990 --> 02:36:36,740
this perspective and I step on it and

3677
02:36:40,210 --> 02:36:38,000
when they stepped on it what happened

3678
02:36:42,820 --> 02:36:40,220
next sent me two astrophysicists not

3679
02:36:44,140 --> 02:36:42,830
neurologists when I stepped on it you

3680
02:36:46,360 --> 02:36:44,150
imagine the two poles of a magnet

3681
02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:46,370
similar poles North Pole you try to push

3682
02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:48,080
two powerful magnets together they slip

3683
02:36:53,230 --> 02:36:50,930
away from each other well when I when I

3684
02:36:54,460 --> 02:36:53,240
stepped on this thing it pulled itself

3685
02:36:56,320 --> 02:36:54,470
out from under me and ran out of the

3686
02:36:58,240 --> 02:36:56,330
room and it took my leg with it and it

3687
02:37:00,580 --> 02:36:58,250
knocked me right down to the floor it

3688
02:37:03,550 --> 02:37:00,590
just freaked me out then we make a

3689
02:37:05,740 --> 02:37:03,560
discovery that parallel universes may

3690
02:37:08,440 --> 02:37:05,750
very well exist based on a discovery

3691
02:37:11,469 --> 02:37:08,450
published in science about the Big Bang

3692
02:37:14,860 --> 02:37:11,479
so you see our observation may actually

3693
02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:14,870
be catching up to what's in reality and

3694
02:37:18,310 --> 02:37:16,370
that is there may be more than one

3695
02:37:21,150 --> 02:37:18,320
universe and we might see them bleeding

3696
02:37:24,490 --> 02:37:21,160
into our own ok the stuff of nightmares

3697
02:37:27,040 --> 02:37:24,500
let's ask one last question of you Marc

3698
02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:27,050
Dantonio is there any place we can check

3699
02:37:31,330 --> 02:37:29,650
online to find more of the stuff you do

3700
02:37:34,090 --> 02:37:31,340
do I ever shut up

3701
02:37:34,900 --> 02:37:34,100
but yeah I actually might my website is

3702
02:37:37,570 --> 02:37:34,910
FX

3703
02:37:42,550 --> 02:37:37,580
models.com that shows the model work we

3704
02:37:44,349 --> 02:37:42,560
do but as far as you Fatah get tog and I

3705
02:37:46,690 --> 02:37:44,359
are gonna have our own separate website

3706
02:37:48,760 --> 02:37:46,700
for that that's gonna be coming up as we

3707
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:48,770
make our progress we're about four

3708
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:52,240
months from production of our first

3709
02:37:57,010 --> 02:37:55,040
multispectral camera okay we'll put it

3710
02:37:58,810 --> 02:37:57,020
up as soon as you let us know we'll have

3711
02:38:00,460 --> 02:37:58,820
it over at the power cast com

3712
02:38:02,830 --> 02:38:00,470
meantime you can go to the power cast

3713
02:38:04,900 --> 02:38:02,840
com and if you sign up for our weekly

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strange planet calm by his books if you

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buy his latest book stalking the heard

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directly from Chris he gets all the

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money he doesn't give it away to Jeff

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Bezos at Amazon and he signs and numbers

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the book Marc Dantonio thanks for

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joining us on the para cast thanks for

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